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And gamma spikes, as we all know, are common when burning hydrogen in air or from cell phone batteries?

LENR advocates have always had the problem of explaining the absence of radiation and, when it occurs, it is typically in short bursts.

Yes, this is what I meant. It just does not look like a fusion reaction...
Well, we will all know when their patents have been cleared, I guess. The question is though, whether they will actually get the patents granted. I am sure they will in the US, because it is possible to get a patent for about everything there, but I am not so sure about the rest of the world.

Via NBF:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/discus ... cardi.html

there is some new information on New Energy Times:

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2010/ ... line.shtml

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/ ... piantelli/

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/ ... ni-report/

Now, I have to admit my cluelessness in regards to neutron capture.
How is that exothermic?

Actually, the recent trend in the US is that you can't get a patent on an apparatus intended to produce fusion without demonstrating it actually does. We saw several posts of rejected patents in this forum last year.

Whoever is examining this field is a fusion skeptic on the order of Todd Rider.

Tom Ligon wrote:Actually, the recent trend in the US is that you can't get a patent on an apparatus intended to produce fusion without demonstrating it actually does. We saw several posts of rejected patents in this forum last year.

Whoever is examining this field is a fusion skeptic on the order of Todd Rider.

everything produces fusion once in a while, just some things A WHOLE LOT more than others.

i'm sure if you sit there with some geiger counters long enough you could gather enough statistical data to show one of those counts came from my shoe. ofcourse, the human race would have long vanished by then...

This sounds marvellous. The energy output is so big that the probability for a mistake not is so big. The gamma rays may come from a nuclear process. But I fear it can be a scam.
The interior is hidden, we do not know what's inside.

From http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/discus ... cardi.html
we can read this.

"I brought my own gamma detector, a battery-operated 1.25″ NaI(Tl) with an energy range=25keV-2000keV. I measured some increase of counts near the reactor (about 50-100%) during operation, in an erratic (unstable) way, with respect to background.

I decided to change the gamma detector from “counts” to “spectra” mode. After a few minutes, Rossi realized that I was trying to identify something secret inside the reactor. I was forced to stop the measurements."

It can be a inbuilt X-ray emitter how could be uncovered by a spectra.

I hope it not is so. Maybe the Ni catalyse P+P fusion and gamma comes from positron annihilations. Cu comes from energy consuming side reactions.

Skipjack wrote:Via NBF:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/discus ... cardi.html

there is some new information on New Energy Times:

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2010/ ... line.shtml

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/ ... piantelli/

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/ ... ni-report/

Now, I have to admit my cluelessness in regards to neutron capture.
How is that exothermic?

I am back to China and for some reasons nextbiguture and newenergytimes blogs are among the filtered websites.....
Any interesting bit of info in those articles?

The Wider-Larson theory seems the most plausible explanation for the "cold-fusion" phenomenon that I am aware of.

As I mentioned before, if the W-L is correct, it should lead to a variety of both exothermic and endothermic transmutation reactions. In addition to energy generation, it should be possible to use such W-L processes to directly manufacture the more expensive elements (PGM's, Hafnium) from cheaper and more abundant elements. Such reactions will be highly endothermic and, thus, quite expensive, which would limit the economics of the process to the production of the above mentioned most expensive elements. However, given the large amounts of energy that will come from the energy production side (as well as conventional fission and, perhaps, fusion plants), the energy necessary to perform these transmutations should be available.

Giorgio wrote:

Skipjack wrote:Via NBF:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/discus ... cardi.html

there is some new information on New Energy Times:

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2010/ ... line.shtml

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/ ... piantelli/

http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/ ... ni-report/

Now, I have to admit my cluelessness in regards to neutron capture.
How is that exothermic?

I am back to China and for some reasons nextbiguture and newenergytimes blogs are among the filtered websites.....
Any interesting bit of info in those articles?

Why would nextbigfuture and newelergytimes be screened out? Niether of these websites have been in any way critical of China and its political system. If anything, nextbigfuture has been quite bullish on China's technological and economic future.

Hi

I was in China last year and not just nextbigfuture but it seems all blogger.com blogs are blocked.

Pretty much all blogs are blocked.

It seemed not so much a blacklist but a selective white list. This is easier for them to manage. It is like a bouncer at an exclusive club. Your name is not on the permitted list, so go away.

They only want to be bothered letting some stuff through.

nextbigfuture is built on blogger.com with my own URL and some modifications to the look.

I suppose if I got around to porting to another system, I might be able to slip through

blogs in general are too unpredictable for them, plus if they do not have them their view is so what. They only want things which are clearly beneficial - economically and technologically (so they would let through journals etc...)

Just write some real-nice things about the Chinese administration's custodianship of energy needs, and they'll pin you up as a 'goodie'. WHy not ask for an on-line interview with a leading Chinese academic, then they might open China up to your blog. Could be a real coup!

But let's run this in another thread. I'm beginning to really hate the sight of seeing this LENR 'stuff' popping up in news all the time. It is clearly not demonstrably a nuclear effect and could so easily be so many things... it's just pure speculation and if people stopped speculating and making nickel-hydrogen reactions a total 'non-science' and one for the goof-bin then we might've got to the bottom of it all by now. I think Tom L said this same thing the other day.

10 pages... and how much closer is anyone to understanding anything more about anything....? 10 bloomin' pages of nuffin.

A few more tidbits posted here.
http://pesn.com/2011/01/17/9501746_Foca ... or_market/

I am suspicious-- I posted something about this in my Blog, but suffice it to say, we've had many examples of "demonstrations" like this, and They do not impress. The claim about "powering" a factory for two years with a unit would have been vastly more impressive-- had they backed it up with some objective observation, and you cannot tell me you couldn't find any other scientists in Europe who wouldn't have been willing to provide such witness.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm getting the feeling of yet another case of, at best, bad science that is going to once again make things harder, not easier for reputable groups who are involved in this field.

Run
Wall of incandescent 100 Watt light-bulbs
Until Beyond Doubt
Laugh All The Way To The Bank

parallel wrote:A few more tidbits posted here.
http://pesn.com/2011/01/17/9501746_Foca ... or_market/

You know, the fact that they also mention Blacklight power and it's theories really doesn't fill me with confidence in that article.

Enthusiasm has its place, but in science, that place needs to be strictly controlled. Let's see a Rossi power cell in the hands of a group of skeptical scientists, who more importantly, *stand to gain nothing in monetary terms* from it's sale. When they agree, I'll be a bit more enthusiastic.

Nik wrote:Run
Wall of incandescent 100 Watt light-bulbs
Until Beyond Doubt
Laugh All The Way To The Bank

Nope-- run wall of incandescent 100 Watt bulbs-- with someone not affiliated to your company, who has no monetary interest in it, observing. Ditto for the power unit. "Free energy" is one of the most scam field areas of science, and it is not unfair to demand developments like this provide the most verifiable proof we can have.