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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby mvanwink5 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:04 pm

"I just want to add that. Clearly Peter Thiel does, or he would not be investing in Helion."

You make a good point that it would indeed be easy for Thiel to let key people know the positive status of the Fusion race. That is a good point, but it may be also that he does not want funds to go to Helion's competition. Same with TAE and GF.

Good to hear you have continued confidence. We all look forward to breakthrough news.
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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby Skipjack » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:10 pm

mvanwink5 wrote:"I just want to add that. Clearly Peter Thiel does, or he would not be investing in Helion."
You make a good point that it would indeed be easy for Thiel to let key people know the positive status of the Fusion race. That is a good point, but it may be also that he does not want funds to go to Helion's competition. Same with TAE and GF.

From what I understand, he was trying to talk to Trump about putting more funding into fusion startups, none the less. I don't think he got through to him :(
Musk also was on the advisory board for Trump for a while. He even stayed on after getting a lot of flack for doing so. But he has quit since. From what I understand Trump is not the kind of man, who takes others advice.

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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby Skipjack » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:11 pm

crowberry wrote:It is great that Helion Energy has been able to collect 30 MUSD over the past three years. Having their team expanded to 24 persons sounds also good. But unless they really publish something solid there could be a risk that the cash flow dries up if they encounter unexpected problems with the machine they are building.

I am sure that they could publish their results at any time, if necessary. From what I understand, right now they are doing what their investors want, which is to keep quiet.

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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby crowberry » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:52 pm

Here is Helion Energys abstract for the upcoming 60th Annual Meeting of the APS Division of Plasma Physics conference.

Abstract: BM9.00005 : Overview of Staged Magnetic Compression of FRC targets

Helion Energy is building several fusion systems, based on Staged Magnetic Compression of Field Reverse Configurations (FRC). The FRC is a high-Beta compact toroid that may lead to fusion power plants with linear topologies, high power density, and direct energy recovery that minimize the reactor engineering and environmental concerns of fusion energy. Presented is an overview of Helion’s approach and an update on the ARPA-E research program, Staged Magnetic Compression of FRC Targets to Fusion Conditions. In this approach, a high-poloidal flux FRC target is formed and translated into a cylindrical, high-field compression region. The FRC target is then compressed to multi-keV temperatures and relevant fusion densities. An overview to the approach and historical background will be provided along with key recent technical progress. An overview of FRC macro-stability criteria and limitations and transport scaling will be detailed. In addition, power-plant analyses for a range of magnetically compressed FRC approaches will be summarized, including key scaling relationships and primary cost drivers.


http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP18/Session/BM9.5

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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby Skipjack » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:38 pm

Not much new information, but still worth a post:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/10/h ... -year.html

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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby mvanwink5 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:50 pm

2018 is Helion's target for completing their net fusion device, leading presumably testing in 2019. Not much time remaining in 2018 to finish construction so it must be close. None of these guys ever gives enough detail to know what 'completion' means. They talk like O&M people, or worse like Elon Musk. Nevertheless, the 2018 date is good news (assuming NBF info is not 2 years old).

General Fusion seems to be claiming that the last full scale piece, the adiabatic, stable under compression spheromak plasma injector, PI3, has been proven. At this point they are targeting building a demonstration plant. No date for that that I have seen.

In my way of thinking, plasma is the big hurdle, the impossible to know until proven, so for the adiabatic + stable under compression plasma to be proven is good news for all the FRC variants (TriAlpha is a bit different in that they are not doing a pulse compression, but their results are encouraging).

Get ready for commercial fusion is what it sounds like.
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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby Maui » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:12 pm

mvanwink5 wrote:Nevertheless, the 2018 date is good news (assuming NBF info is not 2 years old).

It seems this Seattle Business Magazine story from April is the source for this NBF article; looks like they took a bit of info from that article (including the end-of-year target) and mashed it with existing copy on Helion.

Not 2 years old, but nothing very fresh here either.

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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby Skipjack » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:02 pm

Yes, I presume that we won't see results for Helion's new device before some time next year. Would be exciting to see them reach break even in 2019!
The others are not that far behind either and we might see several contenders reach break even in the coming 5 years.
Given the currently known timelines, Helion Energy, Tokamak Energy and LPP seem to be the closest, followed by Tri Alpha and General Fusion. There is also another Z- Pinch concept (in addition to Zap Energy's SFS Z- Pinch) that I recently read about. I can't remember the name, but they sounded very aggressive in their schedule.

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Re: More Helion Energy news....

Postby Skipjack » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:22 am

David Kirtley of Helion Energy presented some of their latest research at the APS meeting on Monday November the 5th:
http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/DPP18/Session/BM9.5


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