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Actually I'm nit picking here but CV stands for C=Carrier V=Fixed Wing Aircraft N= Nuclear. Thus CV= Carrier Fixed Wing Aircraft CVN=Carrier Fixed Wing Aircraft Nuclear.KitemanSA wrote:In MSimon's post, CV refers to Carrier Vessel, as in CVN-78 or USS John F. Kennedy, (CV-67).Aeronaut wrote:Great job on the FAQ wiki, KitemanSA. Couldn't find what CV means, but I did gain a much better understanding of how a PW may function and fit into the existing power grid.
I also visited the EMC2 site and saw a sketch of a much smaller PW cube. Surely that's not the 100 MW size for a drop-in reactor/ vacuum module?
If you mean the mostly transparent picture at the right of the three picture near the top, that one is the WB-8 (check out the properties of the image). The solid picture of the box with man and the fork-lift is, and is labeled, WB-D (Demo), the 100MW version. The WB-D won't necessarily include the "Venetian Blind" power collecting stuff, so the box may be smaller than a real power reactor.
Wow. That is different than I read many years ago. How does "Fixed Wing Aircraft" result in "V"? Not saying it doesn't, nothing the Navy does in this vein would surprise me, but there is usually SOME sort of logic to it!JCee wrote: Actually I'm nit picking here but CV stands for C=Carrier V=Fixed Wing Aircraft N= Nuclear. Thus CV= Carrier Fixed Wing Aircraft CVN=Carrier Fixed Wing Aircraft Nuclear.
Any ideas?
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Never mind, I found out myself.
Seems to have come from "Heavier than air", then later "fixed wing".
Answers.com says CVN = Carrier Vessel Nuclear. They probably got it from the same place I did!
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According to Wikipedia, aircraft carriers were originally conceived as similar to cruisers (which had the designation C), and the V came from the Frence verb voler, meaning to fly. Now, CV doesn't stand for anything except "Multipurpose Aircraft Carrier", with CVN standing for "Multipurpose Aircraft Carrier, Nuclear Propulsion".ladajo wrote:I am not sure I buy the fixed wing part. Our carriers also fly helos. They don't get u/w without helos if aircraft are embarked.
I once had a debate with someone about how many aircraft carriers were built during WW2. I'd seen a documentary that twice said the US built 400+ carriers. On further investigation, somewhere around 150 to 160, with about 100 being CVE or jeep carriers. The CVE was supposed to stand for Combustible, Volatile, and Expendible.
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I have wondered where the V came from for 25 years. I love talk- polywell.blaisepascal wrote:According to Wikipedia, aircraft carriers were originally conceived as similar to cruisers (which had the designation C), and the V came from the Frence verb voler, meaning to fly. Now, CV doesn't stand for anything except "Multipurpose Aircraft Carrier", with CVN standing for "Multipurpose Aircraft Carrier, Nuclear Propulsion".ladajo wrote:I am not sure I buy the fixed wing part. Our carriers also fly helos. They don't get u/w without helos if aircraft are embarked.
But if so, WHY?krenshala wrote:It has always been my understanding that the V in CV was the shorthand designation for "Fixed Wing Aircraft".
HazeGrey.org says that the "V" designator used to refer to "heavier than air craft" then became "fixed wing aircraft". At least that makes military logic, it has a "V" in it and it is unique enough to be useful.
Then Blaise says, no it comes from the French word "voler". That could also be since we used to be much better friends with the French, especially before they got all snooty over us saving their @sses repeatedly.
So, "fixed wing" makes no sense and either of the other two make some sense. Which is it? Or did it come from something else all together?
That's why the Kennedy is also known as the John F. Kindling and Forrestal's nickname is Forest Fire.choff wrote:I once had a debate with someone about how many aircraft carriers were built during WW2. I'd seen a documentary that twice said the US built 400+ carriers. On further investigation, somewhere around 150 to 160, with about 100 being CVE or jeep carriers. The CVE was supposed to stand for Combustible, Volatile, and Expendible.
All I needed to know that CV didn't mean a part of the PW machine or it's operation.
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I found a good reference (after a bit of searching) for this.ladajo wrote:I read the same thing in wikipedia that Blaise did ("V' came from Voler). It cited a Naval Aviation Compendium as the reference.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_ships_list.htm includes the section:
The following is taken from "United States Naval Aviation 1910-1995, Appendix 16: US Navy and Marine Corps Squadron Designations and Abbreviations":
In European NATO Countries, "R" is used to designate an aircraft carrier.On 17 July 1920, the Secretary of the Navy prescribed a standard nomenclature for types and classes of NAVAL VESSELs, including aircraft, in which lighter-than air craft were identified by the type "Z" and heavier-than air craft by the letter "V". The reference also speculates that: "The use of the "V" designation has been a question since the 1920s. However, no conclusive evidence has been found to identify why the letter "V" was chosen. It is generally believed the "V" was in reference to the French word volplane. As a verb, the word means to glide or soar. As a noun, it described an aeronautical device sustained in the air by lifting devices (wings), as opposed to the bag of gas that the airships (denoted by "Z") used. The same case may be regarding the use of "Z". It is generally believed the "Z" was used in deference to Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin. However, documentation has not been located to verify this assumption."