Mach Effect progress

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby hanelyp » Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:46 am

The daylight is uncomfortably bright for eyes so long in the dark.

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:51 am

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby pbelter » Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:23 pm

There is a new article about Gliese 1214b most likely having water rich atmosphere

http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/09/gliese ... -rich.html

It lists the estimated mass and diameter of the planet being respectively 7 and 2.7 times Earth.

With those proportions we get 96% of Earth gravity and roughly 7 times the surface area. Not bad...

Now we need to find the surface composition (any land there?), rotational period and temperature to know how much the real estate is worth there.

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby AcesHigh » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:15 pm

I do not want to offend anyone here, but it SEEMS to me that Paul March has a better understanding of the kind of physics related to ME than anyone on this forum.

I would really like to see his input in the whole discussion between GI and the rest of the forumers.

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:50 pm

I'm certainly not offended. I think it's very likely Paul knows much more than anyone else in this forum. I would just note to you though, that he works full time for Eagleworks now, which probably explains why he posts far less than he used to. There are likely many issues he cannot discuss.

For instance, if you look up warp drive at wiki, and pull up Sonny's "Warp 101" paper, near the end of the ppt following the paper, you'll see a photo of a 2.45 Ghz "QVPT" thruster. I had thought that the QVPT title was used exclusively for rebranding the MLT, but the photo appears to be that of a Shawyer resonator. Looks like since Sonny wants to explain thrust from both the MLT and the Shawyer resonator, he renamed BOTH of them under his QVPT title.

If this is so, and Sonny has already tested a 2.45 Ghz resonator, obviously there is a lot he is not releasing to the public. And that's his choice. Paul has fewer choices. Since he works for Sonny he needs to avoid whatever topics instructed, which I am presuming is why we have heard so much less from him the last year.

And I would note to you too, at the Starship Congress in Dallas last August, Sonny continued deliberately misrepresenting his work by claiming Paul's test results from 9-10 years ago were predicted by his QVF model, which in fact followed many years after. Since Paul has no choice (if he wants to keep his job) in supporting the chicanery, I know I would not want to be caught on a public forum and asked to answer the obvious questions. It's just sensible for Paul to stay out of the public eye so long as his boss is a bullshit artist.
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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby AcesHigh » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:36 pm

I suppose he can answer the physics related issues of the argument here at Talk Polywell while at the same time avoiding answering sensitive issues that he cannot discuss due to the work at Eagleworks?

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:56 am

The physics related issues here always turn up as conservation complaints and Paul doesn't have any training in GR. I think you need a physicist for the kinds of answers you're looking for. And even so, if you had such a person, don't you think the engineers here would continue right on making objections anyway?

No offense intended, but you can tell an engineer 15X that they can't do the math that way, and many of them will go right on arguing that they can. This is what Andrew Palfreyman has been doing for all the years I've known him.

Hence why I am at times frustrated over the inability of the engineering community to take the word of the physics community. It is always engineers who make the conservation complaints. Never the physicists. I dunno what to think that each engineer who approaches the issue afresh tells himself he's seen something no physicist has ever noticed--the most obvious kinds of objections one could make--as if this stuff had never been peer reviewed.

Hence why real objections don't belong online where people bear no personal responsibility for their complaints, but in peer reviewed literature where their careers literally hang in the balance.
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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby paulmarch » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:19 pm

Paul March
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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby AcesHigh » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:59 am

Thanks Paul. It´s always good to see your input here even if you can´t enter into detail due to your work at Eagleworks.

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:51 am

I don't really understand the issue here, except to say that I do understand the need to transfer between inertial and non-inertial systems.

For those interested, I pose the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear-quadratic_regulator

And just to say true--the real transfers for these occasions occur in GR. If you haven't been trained in GR (as I have not) then you ought to humbly accept that you don't get it.

Understanding and accepting that you "don't get it" is a requirement of GR.

If you think you can work in GR with no GR tools, you're a self-aggrandizing asshole.
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Re: Mach Effect progress

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:03 am

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:12 am

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby hanelyp » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:20 am

The daylight is uncomfortably bright for eyes so long in the dark.

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Re: Mach Effect progress

Postby GIThruster » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:29 am

Personally I think we've been talking past one another. I do appreciate the effort to do the calculation he did, but it doesn't show anything. It doesn't come to the issue. The claim that energy conservation is the result of using propellant is hand-waving. There is nothing in his analysis to show a propellantless system will violate conservation. Just an empty claim. So what was the point in the exercise?

As I said--put the thruster on a swing arm and his illustration still works, so carrying propellant is not the issue. Also, if the lack of propellant would yield a conservation violation, we would see this in the case of electric motors and we do not.

Just saying, I see no evidence that M-E thrusters will ever violate conservation. Certainly, this is not coming from the maths supplied here.
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