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Re: BLP news

Postby Skipjack » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:27 pm


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Re: BLP news

Postby D Tibbets » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:34 am

To error is human... and I'm very human.

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Re: BLP news

Postby nferguso » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:27 am

Dr. Tibbets, thank you for your response. As I say, I am not a chemist or anything like, so I wouldn't dream of arguing your analysis. I do know that Dr. Mills' theories reject much of QM in favor of classical physics, so your QM oriented analysis is rather beside the point (of the topic). Still, with respect to your remarks I should mention that BrLP claims that the large quantities of energy released are almost entirely in the UV and hard UV part of the spectrum.
There are numerous research papers covering theory and detailed experimental results, as well as slide presentations and videos for a more general audience, all openly published on the BrLP website.
There are also a number of validation reports by outside scientists who were allowed to study the setup of laboratory experiments and observe the experiments personally.
Considering the huge body of research confirming QM, it is highly possible that Dr. Mills' theory is nonsense, or anyway incorrect. That wouldn't rule out the possibility that he has observed a previously unknown and improbable phenomenon (superconduction, anyone?) and found means to control it, regardless of the underlying theory. I would settle for that.

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Re: BLP news

Postby D Tibbets » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:05 am

My arguement may use quantum mechanics precepts, but even classically, similar arguments apply. We live in a world where certain materials are not at the lowest energy state they can achieve. Things like coal, oil, uranium, etc. can all be coaxed to yield useful energy by forcing or allowing their natural decay (chemically more oxidized compounds, radioactively by climbing of falling along the nuclear binding energy relationship. What is important is that these systems are ready made for us by nature. Eventually even protons may decay to lower energy states, but if true it is irrelevant for us. It is accepted that the electron lowest energy orbitals are well defined. Quantum machanics is not needed for this appreciation. It does allow for more percise understanding but for this discussion it does not have to be invoked, except for understanding the positions and existance of narrow spectral lines. Black body radiation is more classically described. Still there is a ground state where a substance cool down to and emit energy. But below that temperature it would require energy to cool it further. This point is the temperature of the cosmic background radiation.
That some lower obtainable electron orbital energy may exist is no the problem. The issue is proving it. Current understanding of the universe , both classical and quantum mechanics do not.

As I have pointed out the magnitude of the claimed, energy release is not subtle. It should be very easy to demonstrate in a lab or in nature even to a rightly skeptical audience.

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Re: BLP news

Postby Giorgio » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:08 am

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: BLP news

Postby parallel » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:36 pm


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Re: BLP news

Postby Giorgio » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:39 pm

As always they are only good showing words.
Let's see the hardware and the specifications before, than it will be worth to listen to their words.
Somehow I feel that after they collected even more money a last minute issue will "force them" to postpone the hardware release..... :roll:
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Re: BLP news

Postby parallel » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:22 pm

Giorgio,
As always you are only good at giving uninformed opinions.
BLP have published quite detailed specs and photos of the hardware.

edit added.
I had reason to visit my post of Nov 08, 2016 8:24 am on page 35. It is painfully obvious that Giorgio never bothered to look at the videos and a month later we have six pages of drivel since. Talk about pathetic.

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Re: BLP news

Postby ladajo » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:41 pm

That's a little ironic Parallel given the 5 plus years of drivel we've had out of you, where you haven't actually read the links that you have posted.
You have become the King of Drive-By Cherry Pick Jack-asses.
Well done!

Now, could you please try to answer something, anything, we have asked you? Some substance would be useful.
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Re: BLP news

Postby JLawson » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:18 pm

Unfortunately what I've been seeing from BLP is decidedly iffy. All theory aside, what I saw on one of their early demo videos was a bank of LED lights hooked up to a bank of solar cells, 'reacting' to them dropping their 'hydrino' powder in granular form between two rotating electrodes hooked up to a high-amp power supply.

So the 'hydrino' stuff causes an arc between the electrodes, light from said arc is captured by solar cells and sent to the LED panel. The LEDs, due to their very fast rise/fall time when hit with a pulse of electricity, light very quickly and it's very impressive. Oooo, blinky lights!

However, the time needed to light a standard incandescent light bulb means that it'd be much less impressive using those. And I'm thinking that their demo of 'power' would fail with those.

Basically what I saw was an intermittently fed rejiggered carbon-arc projector, the kind that used to be used in movie theaters before the advent of xenon bulbs. The granular 'hydrino' stuff shorts between the electrodes and flashes.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. They aren't providing it.

(Your mileage may vary, results not guaranteed, past performance doesn't equate to future results and all that...)
When opinion and reality conflict - guess which one is going to win in the long run.

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Re: BLP news

Postby parallel » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:29 pm


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Re: BLP news

Postby parallel » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:45 pm

Video of Brilliant Light Power talk 6th Dec 2016
Not a whole lot new from the previous road show
https://www.youtube.com/embed/G5ZLqp1dX14

intro skip?
Start ~5:40
Costs ~ 14:50
Mills theory ~ 20:
Cell design ~48:
Demo ~1:06
Cosmology ~1:31
end of Mills presentation
Marketing ~1:40

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Re: BLP news

Postby Giorgio » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:40 pm

A society of dogmas is a dead society.

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Re: BLP news

Postby ladajo » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:02 pm

The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)

What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)

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Re: BLP news

Postby JoeP » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:38 am

We need a Mills vs Rossi thread. To debate who has the better technique in making money from vaporware. It's is close, but I still think Rossi has more style, or at least much higher entertainment value.


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