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KitemanSA
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polyill wrote:Honorable KitemanSA and Dan Tibbets,

Would you please take the war of the worlds to another, dedicated thread?
It's a source of eternal amusement and aesthetic delight to me, but, really does it belong here?
One of the points of this thread is measuring Rossi's public impact by counting the pages of the thread, remember?
You are distorting the stats, gents. ;)
Indeed, for a small time, we did. Chrismb started one. Dan did some calculations (incorrectly) that proported to show that the reaction in question (p+62Ni=63Cu) was endothermic. I corrected his math in that thread. He thanked me, which (foolish me) made me think he finally understood.
Some time later he made the same incorrect statement in this thread again, I corrected him again, and we were off and running again.

And while I agree it is getting (nay, has gotten) tedious, it is related to the fundamental reaction in question so I consider it on topic.

Oh, and by the way, I recommended to Dan that he start a poll on the topic. He hasn't, but there is nothing to prevent YOU from doing it. Maybe that will shift the discussion to that topic.

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KitemanSA wrote:...
Oh, and by the way, I recommended to Dan that he start a poll on the topic. He hasn't, but there is nothing to prevent YOU from doing it. Maybe that will shift the discussion to that topic....
...and in the words of the immortal TV series The Apprentice, '... and one of you gentlemen, WILL be fired!'

personally i have no idea.

i too recommend we put the matter to popular vote and decide upon this important fact of the universe. Let the wisdom of the ignorant prevail.

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Post by KitemanSA »

rcain wrote:
KitemanSA wrote:...
Oh, and by the way, I recommended to Dan that he start a poll on the topic. He hasn't, but there is nothing to prevent YOU from doing it. Maybe that will shift the discussion to that topic....
...and in the words of the immortal TV series The Apprentice, '... and one of you gentlemen, WILL be fired!'

personally i have no idea.

i too recommend we put the matter to popular vote and decide upon this important fact of the universe. Let the wisdom of the ignorant prevail.
There is an interesting phenomenon with different names depending on who you ask, but if you ask 1000 people who have stated they DON'T know when the Battle of Hastings took place to give their best guess, they, as a group, do know. It is usually called the Delphi phenomenon. It improves with discussion and repolling.

Delphi anyone?

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Post by seedload »

Joseph Chikva wrote: And also I have already seen your slander here: viewtopic.php?p=66759#66759
I said that you derail threads. There is not slander in that. Sadly, you do.

It is the same thing I am saying here. You are posting nothing interesting except badly translated sarcasm and insults to other people's intelligence.

And this is coming from someone who is actually on the same side of the Rossi argument as you.

For a normal person, hearing this would be a wakeup call. For you, apparently not.

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Post by seedload »

Joseph Chikva wrote: But it is very weak position, my friend. If you worry on Polywell as you wrote in that ban request, idea can not be killed with criticism. Certainly if that idea is viable.
regards
It is not appropriate to argue whether Polywell is viable in EVERY thread. If you don't think it viable, then post a thread with a description of why you don't think it viable rather than poisoning a simple patent discussion with your disjointed thoughts on overall viability.

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Post by Joseph Chikva »

seedload wrote:
Joseph Chikva wrote: And also I have already seen your slander here: viewtopic.php?p=66759#66759
I said that you derail threads. There is not slander in that. Sadly, you do.

It is the same thing I am saying here. You are posting nothing interesting except badly translated sarcasm and insults to other people's intelligence.

And this is coming from someone who is actually on the same side of the Rossi argument as you.

For a normal person, hearing this would be a wakeup call. For you, apparently not.
You said slander. It is not insult when advise somebody to learn something that he does not know now.
For your note you beloved Chrismb wrote me:
It is for you to show what you want to, but if you do not know physics basics (and want someone else to spoon feed you) then you are not going to be able to show anything.
in December 13. There was about 5th post.
Whence he knew that I don't know physics basics?
I did not answer him with insult. But only argued my statements and only said that he speaks nonsenses. Or in the other words I said truth.
Then learning more about crismb and his baggage (knowledge) I advised him to study before discussion. As exactly his knowledge is very limited.

I am asking you now: why I have not right to advice and why crismb has that right? Why do you mean that I insulted someone with my advise and crismb did not calling me for example Mr. Arse?
Should I do the same – something like “fu…k mo…r” or something else?

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Post by Betruger »

What you should do is learn proper english.

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Post by Joseph Chikva »

Betruger wrote:What you should do is learn proper english.
Ok, I will.
December 13 2010 Pardon April 25 I was mistaken
You appear to have misunderstood the relationship of 'fusion cross section'/'collision cross section'/energy and I say you need to read up around that subject to be able to ask good questions.
chrismb wrote:You appear to have misunderstood the relationship of 'fusion cross section'/'collision cross section'/energy and I say you need to read up around that subject to be able to ask good question
chrismb wrote:I pointed you at Gamow quantum tunneling, so go make sure you understand this, then post something intelligible
chrismb wrote:Your discussion suggests a lack of basic understanding of fusion reactions. I have already tried to explain this to you, so will attempt to do so one last time.
chrismb wrote:Start doing some reading, and some maths. This is no good. Your are not making any progress with your understanding of fusion.
So fu..k his foolish mot..r together with moms of all his friends.
Hope that is well understood English.

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Post by Betruger »

Go on. Let it all out.

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Post by ScottL »

No clue what all of that means, but I'd error on the side of it being a verbal attack.

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Post by chrismb »

Joseph Chikva wrote: So fu..k his foolish mot..r together with moms of all his friends.
Hope that is well understood English.
At last the boil is lanced!

(It took enough prodding.!)

C'mon, Mr Chickenrashwilly, don't be bashful now!..

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Post by intrigued »

chrismb wrote:
Joseph Chikva wrote: So fu..k his foolish mot..r together with moms of all his friends.
Hope that is well understood English.
At last the boil is lanced!

(It took enough prodding.!)

C'mon, Mr Chickenrashwilly, don't be bashful now!..
That's just unacceptable.

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Post by chrismb »

Sorry, closest I could get to an Anglicisation of his name, now that he has revealed it to us.

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Unacceptable twice.

Post by Tom DeGisi »

intrigued wrote:
chrismb wrote:
Joseph Chikva wrote: So fu..k his foolish mot..r together with moms of all his friends.
Hope that is well understood English.
At last the boil is lanced!

(It took enough prodding.!)

C'mon, Mr Chickenrashwilly, don't be bashful now!..
That's just unacceptable.
Yes. Unacceptable, and Joseph was also unacceptable. BTW, chrismb, if you must Anglicize DeGisi (DuhGeesey), why not translate it instead. It means Hawkson.

Yours,
Tom

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Post by KitemanSA »

D Tibbets wrote: The outputs of the exothermic reactions are ~ similar to what has actually been measured (D-T fusion, Ur fission), . This validates that this approach to determining output is reasonable. There is some variation, but this is a gross estimate based on the binding energy alone. It ignores the weak force, and various stabilities of differing isotopes (the neutron portion), excited isomer states, etc.
Here are the numbers for ALL the isotopes of Ni and Cu.
At the very low "n" count, reaction is in fact ENDOthermic. But starting at 55Ni+p=56Cu the reaction turns slightly EXOthermic and gets more-so with added neutrons.

Note that the row labled p/n shows the neutrons in each nucleus (protons down, neutrons in the row). The rows labled 28 are Ni and 29 are Cu. The rows labeled keV are the binding energy change (positive = energy RELEASED) for Ni>Cu with that number of neutrons.

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p\n    22	    23	    24	    25	     26	    27	    28	    29	    30	    31
28	385451	401170	420457	435254	453152	467347	483988	494235	506454	515453
29				399647	418552	434858	452859	467907	484682	497108	509871	519932
keV   N/A	   -1523	 -1905	  -396	  -293	   560	   695	  2873	  3418	  4479

p\n    32	    33	    34*	    35	     36	    37	    38	    39	    40	    41
28	526842	534662	545259	552097	561755	567853	576830	582615	590430	595393
29	531642	540528	551381	559297	569207	576273	585391	591704	599973	605265		
keV    4800	  5867	  6122	  7201	  7453	  8421	  8560	  9088	  9543	  9872	

p\n    42	    43	    44	    45	     46	    47	    48	    49	    50	    51
28	602572	607048	613908	617527	623894	627251	633124	636073	641377	
29	613140	618510	625677	630293	636967	641042	647288	650832	656603	658517
keV   10568	 11462	 11769	 12766	 13073	 13791	 14164	 14759	 15226	 N/A
* This is the 62Ni+P=63Cu reaction.  It releases ~6.1 MeV.
PS: The numbers may not add up perfectly cuz I rounded some in Excel, and some here.

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