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Re: EM Drive

Postby kurt9 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:54 pm

Dr. White did two sets of experiments based on his theory starting about 10 years ago. The first set produced null results within the sensitivity of his interferometer measurement setup that was deemed necessary by his theory. He then increased the measurement sensitivity of his interferometry by a factor of a thousand, way beyond that which his theory said was needed for a definitive measurement and then performed another set of experiments. He still got a null result. This was around '12 I think. It reasonable to conclude his theory, and the theory this presentation is based on, is wrong.

Dr's Woodward and Fearn, working on their Mach Effect Thruster, got side-tracked for a couple of years with doing a set of experiments to answer once and for all all of the vacuum energy schemes. Their experiments effectively discredited the various vacuum energy/ZPE once and for all. This was a couple of years after White's experiments mentioned above. Another side results of Woodward and Fearn's Mach Effect work over the years is that they have established that there are no possible links between electromagnetism and gravity/inertia. This is the reason why their "Mach_lorenz" thruster scheme that was proposed during the oughts did not work (If it had, we really would have "star-trek" like transportation by now and all of the people involved would be trillionnaires). This is also significant because it discredits all of the anti-gravity schemes, all of which are based on there being such a link between electromagnetism and gravity/inertia.

My point is that I consider Woodward and Fearn's work to be real. But everything else in this milieu is fantasy.

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Re: EM Drive

Postby Carl White » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:25 pm

The thing that started Roger Shawyer off was his observations of certain perturbations in satellite orbits. I wonder whether anyone ever came up with a plausible explanation for them.

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Re: EM Drive

Postby kunkmiester » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:21 pm

No one ever did an audit of other satellites to see if the oddity he found was more consistent.
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Re: EM Drive

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Re: EM Drive

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Re: EM Drive

Postby kurt9 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:50 pm

I think you're right that White may not have fully tested his Q-thruster concept. I know at the time NASA gave him money and specifically told him to focus on the warp interferometry experiments, both of which resulted in null results as far as I recollect. I do know that Paul March has worked with Harold White on some of this, Paul March who has a long working relationship with Dr. Woodward.

I must admit that I am biased more towards Woodward's Mach work than White's work, partly because Woodward's theories ultimately derive from Relativity and White's from quantum theory. I consider Relativity to be the more fundamental of the two theories. Woodward has been much more open with his work than White.

The Q-thruster concept is essentially a vacuum energy scheme.


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