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Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:19 am
by Giorgio
Skipjack wrote:Unless they let people take one of those reactors and have it tested by THEIR own scientists, I would not touch this with a ten foot pole.
But that would disrupt their business model! :wink:

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:30 pm
by ladajo
The whole practice is about skirting investment laws and regulation.
It is, at the end of the day, clearly speculative investment. Unfortunately, as structured, it provides clear ability to be a sham, and take unsuspecting folks' money, as they think, while at arms length (done on purpose by licenscee), it is a legitimate operation.
Typical criminal behavior exploiting misinformation and system weaknesses.

Criminals will always be criminal, which is rooted in greed, cowardice, and laziness, not the glory that hollywood seeks to give it.
<conclude rant>...

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 8:43 pm
by Carl White
http://qz.com/676426/they-said-it-could ... the-world/

I don't know who quartz.com is, but they did a radio-style mishmash called "Actuality" with quotes from Peter Hagelstein (MIT) and Robert Godes (Brillouin). Also, I can't find a date on this, so it may be older news. Godes starts speaking at 16:02, but the format and content is pretty light. Here is what I gleaned from it:

* Brilluion has obtained $10.5 million in funding. None of it is from venture capitalists, it's all from "high-net-worth individuals".

* Godes: "We have demonstrated 4x more energy out than energy in".

* Radio host: "Godes says he can come up with a kind of cold fusion space heater in 2.5 years if he can get enough funding".

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 7:31 pm
by KitemanSA
Doesn't a heat pump have a COP of about 6? Why lower your standards and take a 4?

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 8:37 pm
by hanelyp
Indeed, the heat pump illustrates how COP doesn't mean much without input and output temperatures.

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:22 pm
by Carl White
Brillouin announces SRI validation of its reactor. Although it sounds like validation was the effort of only one man at SRI. COP of 1.2x to 1.45x. Excess heat only a few watts. Meh.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb13961529.htm

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:32 pm
by paperburn1
KitemanSA wrote:Doesn't a heat pump have a COP of about 6? Why lower your standards and take a 4?
Heat pumps move heat so the colder it is outside the lower the difference in the working fluid which results in a lower COP ( and vice versa EER for cooling)
So in cold climates a cop of 6 would be beneficial. Lower temperatures may cause a heat pump to operate below the efficiency of a resistance heater, so conventional heat pumps often include heater coils or auxiliary heating from LP or natural gas to prevent low efficiency operation of the refrigeration cycle. "Cold climate" heat pumps are designed to optimize efficiency below 0 °F

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:53 pm
by Carl White
A link to the actual report from SRI:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index. ... eport-pdf/

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:15 pm
by paperburn1
paperburn1 wrote:
KitemanSA wrote:Doesn't a heat pump have a COP of about 6? Why lower your standards and take a 4?
Heat pumps move heat so the colder it is outside the lower the difference in the working fluid which results in a lower COP ( and vice versa EER for cooling)
So in cold climates a cop of 4 would be beneficial. Lower temperatures may cause a heat pump to operate below the efficiency of a resistance heater, so conventional heat pumps often include heater coils or auxiliary heating from LP or natural gas to prevent low efficiency operation of the refrigeration cycle. "Cold climate" heat pumps are designed to optimize efficiency below 0 °F

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:23 am
by Giorgio
Carl White wrote:A link to the actual report from SRI:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index. ... eport-pdf/
Thanks for the link. A quick read will reveal to anyone with a basic knowledge of experimental calorimetry that the whole experimental set up is meaningless and prone to evaluation errors, especially when you need to make up your own "coefficients" (see Table 2 and Table 3) to make it look like there is actually a positive COP!! :D

Until the moment people will start to drop dreamers like Rossi and Godes that make up bullshit just to prove that their system works, the whole LENR research sector will keep being considered a joke without any respect from any decent researcher.

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:55 pm
by Carl White
Well, I didn't expect to hear about Brillouin again, but after years of silence, they've announced a demonstration at an upcoming conference:

https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/5822670 ... -at-iccf24
“This technology has been independently tested or validated by several of the world’s leading nuclear physicists and laboratories and is ready now to enter into the next phase: commercialization,” said David Firshein, CFO of Brillouin Energy. “The HHT test system that we are demonstrating at ICCF24 is the first ever licensable system that is transportable—it can be packed up and shipped to potential OEM License Partners for further testing and evaluation. This is a crucial step toward solving today’s massive challenges of energy security and climate change.”
Somehow I still don't feel very hopeful, but we'll see.

Re: Brillouin Energy Corporation

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:06 pm
by mvanwink5
Now that money for fusion is flowing, grifters are coming out of the woodwork?