10KW LENR demonstrator (new thread)

Helius · Post by **Helius** » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:56 pm

parallel wrote:Only two months to go before the scheduled 1 MW demo

Prediction #1: That threshold will come an go; There will be similar thresholds next year.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:53 am

Helius wrote:
parallel wrote:Only two months to go before the scheduled 1 MW demo
Prediction #1: That threshold will come an go; There will be similar thresholds next year.

Let's see.... How much are you prepared to bet the demonstration does not take place before December? (I will be it does)

KitemanSA · Post by **KitemanSA** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:21 am

Successfully or unsuccessfully?

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:47 am

KitemanSA,
Helius didn't specify, so the bet is for precisely what he wrote. ie whether there will be a demo this year.
I suspect another case of big mouth.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:00 pm

The latest rumor:
Roy Virgilio (a close source to the Piantelli group who often posted
reliable news on their ongoing work) wrote:
Rossi's tests with NASA should start today (September 6th) and last three days.

Edit added.
I hear from an inside government source that NASA will be testing the E-Cat including the 1 MW unit. I have no confirmation of the date.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:30 pm

As I have been able to confirm that NASA is to test E-Cats I wonder how the pathological skeptics will explain why Rossi would give such an organization the opportunity to demonstrate he is a fraud and liar. (as per Giorgio, et al.)

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:48 pm

How did you "confirm" that? All I saw was rumor posts. Where is the NASA press release?

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:15 pm

ladajo wrote:How did you "confirm" that? All I saw was rumor posts. Where is the NASA press release?

Private conversation with someone I know in the government. He has a lot more information but it is not for publication.

sparkyy0007 · Post by **sparkyy0007** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:53 pm

parallel wrote:As I have been able to confirm that NASA is to test E-Cats I wonder how the pathological skeptics will explain why Rossi would give such an organization the opportunity to demonstrate he is a fraud and liar. (as per Giorgio, et al.)

Maybe Rossi doesn't even know it's a scam.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:01 pm

sparkyy0007 wrote:
parallel wrote:As I have been able to confirm that NASA is to test E-Cats I wonder how the pathological skeptics will explain why Rossi would give such an organization the opportunity to demonstrate he is a fraud and liar. (as per Giorgio, et al.)
Maybe Rossi doesn't even know it's a scam.

Unfortunately that's not funny, it is just stupid. Like much of the ignorant nonsense from the holier than thou crowd, that passes as "discussion."

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:29 am

parallel wrote:
ladajo wrote:How did you "confirm" that? All I saw was rumor posts. Where is the NASA press release?
Private conversation with someone I know in the government. He has a lot more information but it is not for publication.

Seems like a lot of that going around lately.

I just wish we could get a reliable un-named government source for polywell.

sparkyy0007 · Post by **sparkyy0007** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:42 am

parallel wrote:
sparkyy0007 wrote:
parallel wrote:As I have been able to confirm that NASA is to test E-Cats I wonder how the pathological skeptics will explain why Rossi would give such an organization the opportunity to demonstrate he is a fraud and liar. (as per Giorgio, et al.)
Maybe Rossi doesn't even know it's a scam.
Unfortunately that's not funny, it is just stupid.

Couldn't agree with you more.
To do all those tireless years of research to
finally discover the most important energy
vector in history, then apply phase change
calorimetry that you don't understand to
measure your power. So you bring in an
independent chemist to measure the steam
quality with a RH tester and poo-poo any one who
questions your methods.

tomclarke · Post by **tomclarke** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:37 am

parallel wrote:As I have been able to confirm that NASA is to test E-Cats I wonder how the pathological skeptics will explain why Rossi would give such an organization the opportunity to demonstrate he is a fraud and liar. (as per Giorgio, et al.)

Well if he has doubts his stuff will work it depends on timing.

He needs money from investors. Saying NASA is going to test his stuff (and this being true) is a big plus. Sure, when they test and discover it does not work it is a minus, but if he has money by then no problem.

Also, on past form, if NASA eventually claims his stuff does not work he will have some reason for this.

icarus · Post by **icarus** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:46 am

ladajo wrote:
parallel wrote:
ladajo wrote:How did you "confirm" that? All I saw was rumor posts. Where is the NASA press release?
Private conversation with someone I know in the government. He has a lot more information but it is not for publication.
Seems like a lot of that going around lately. I just wish we could get a reliable un-named government source for polywell.

You don't need one when you have a forum full of unquestioning devotees and apologists.

parallel · Post by **parallel** » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:36 pm

tomclarke,

He needs money from investors. Saying NASA is going to test his stuff (and this being true) is a big plus. Sure, when they test and discover it does not work it is a minus, but if he has money by then no problem.

Couple of problems here.
1. Rossi has made no statement about the E-Cat being tested by NASA,
2. Do you really think investors would part with their money before the test?
3. I note you are still certain that it does not work. "...when they test and discover it does not work." I'd bet that you would have been one of those saying flight was impossible as the Wright brothers were flying. After all, that was the scientific consensus of the time.