Apparently we can feasibly get warp drives

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Postby GIThruster » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:37 pm

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Postby AcesHigh » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:19 pm

@GiThruster: plus the recent experiment finding evidence the universe is smooth?

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Postby GIThruster » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:21 pm

Yes, certainly that's another issue that has yet to be answered by the ZPFers, though I would not fault them for this since it's so recent. I doubt that experiment has found its way into the peer reviewed journals yet.

Just try to have a big picture conceptual grasp of the trouble here. Sonny's explanation for thrust out of the Shawyer resonator was that it was pushing on virtual particles in the QVF. For this to generate thrust, those particles have to be able to transfer momentum, but for them to exist at all, they can't gravitate. Makes no sense.

For the ZPF argument to obtain for energy from the field, virtual particles need to be able to have their energy harvested, but this recent experiment says they don't interact with matter at all. So how does one harvest virtual energy?

Note I'm not here saying virtual particles don't have being in some sense. They are a useful accounting measure. Unfortunately, they can't be measured unless one invests serious energy into them at which point they're no longer virtual, and certainly not a source of energy. And this is the crazy nonsense that has surrounded ZPF since it's original conception. Virtual particle production entails a violation of conservation of energy for an extremely short period of time and during that time they can't interact or they are not virtual and would form a real violation of conservation. So pretending to get energy or propulsion from the vacuum has always been wrong headed and something the mainstream has known better than to attempt.
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Postby hanelyp » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:16 pm

My understanding of ZPF theory is that Heisenberg uncertainty allows fluctuations so long as the duration and magnitude combined don't exceed a level that allows clear detection. That such fluctuations might add to a total that is orders of magnitude above detection doesn't make sense to me. There's also the question of why fluctuations should be only of positive magnitude.

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Postby AcesHigh » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:14 pm

I posted on another forum about Dr Sonny White´s work.

a reply from someone there

"in order to warp drive to work
you would have to be able to interfer with strings directly
we have no evidence for this theory

there is also need to supersymetry to exist and work
on idea if true

and a bran theory to work.

because its a recalculation of Alcubierre Drive, and Alcubierre Drive needs all that to work."

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Postby kcdodd » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:14 pm

I don't understand how someone can know what must be known if it's not known. lol
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Postby GIThruster » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:12 pm

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