Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby Betruger » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:43 am


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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby derg » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:40 am

I wish it were otherwise, but an NBA team is a better investment than Polywell fusion.

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby Betruger » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:31 am

How does that work? What is the weight of an NBA team, versus bringing fusion closer by that many years? IOW the time it would take to get those 7/8/9 digits of funding at Donner Party contractual rates, versus from someone like Allen/Page/Brin/Gates/Musk/etc ? What is an NBA team, directly and indirectly, compared to everything gained and avoided in the years skipped, given that funding, towards useful fusion ? IOW everything from bottom line humanitarian consequences, to all the consequences like 38 days to Mars and 76 to Titan.

It is a lot like comparing owning an NBA team versus bringing a cure for 50% of aging closer by so many months/years. The consequences do no show instantly, but the final tally of deaths avoided is still there even if mostly in the future.

Never mind the abstract humane value. The future economic value of these game changers should make for respectably ROI, even with just reasonable clauses for it.

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby derg » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:27 am

I meant in strictly economic terms. Even if it turns out a success, it will take 20 years to integrate the polywell into the grid and see a significant return.

Besides, I'm not sure energy efficiency is even a profitable solution, despite the benefits to civilization and the environment (if that were the case, why have nations in the past been so quick to give up on fission reactors?).

Capitalism rewards productivity, but not necessarily efficiency.

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby hanelyp » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:18 am

The daylight is uncomfortably bright for eyes so long in the dark.

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby Betruger » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:25 am

And I'd forgotten about L. Page's apparent intention to donate his tens/hundreds of $B to something like Tesla instead of charity. So that kind of tips the balance back towards something more seemingly sane.

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby mvanwink5 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:40 pm

General Fusion and VC's have used staged funding and verification steps and are on their way to funding a full scale prototype by years end with target of 3 years for prototype operation. That is the usual way to control funding risk, by funding stages. No doubt Park is lining up the program, but the question is with what group and what will be made public?

By now the mushrooms here should be used to the dearth of news.
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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby mvanwink5 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:49 pm

I guess spark plug is more technical than "pop the clutch."

So, the question is what level of spark plug pulse will be required for a 100 MW Polywell, and does EMC2 have a technical solution on how to do it (and what is it)?
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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby ladajo » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:27 pm

The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)
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Re: Dr. Park to speak at UW-Madison

Postby Robthebob » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:46 am

Has anyone seen Joe around? I think that paper cause him to disappear.
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