Focus Fusion boys got some money to play with?

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Ward Cross
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Focus Fusion boys got some money to play with?

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According to their web site:

http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/a ... l_project/

The Focus Fusion crowd has some money to play with. The ambitions listed on the site seem pretty lofty for such a meager sum of money.

Helius
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Song and Dance.

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What the heck were they doing in Chile? I'm sure the last time I looked at their web site the implication was they were doing experiments, and that wasn't nearly as long as 7 years ago. *Now* the web site implies they were doing simulations. Yea right.

It's more or less just top hats and canes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH2nQHPs4aA

Ward Cross
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Post by Ward Cross »

The only news I heard out of Chile was the creation of some low power focus "fusion" devices for medical research and the like. The research was carried out by CCHEN (Chilean Dept of Nukes) and I have no idea if the LLP or FF groups had anything to do with it.

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Post by Skipjack »

Yeah I read about them too and that they got funding...
I am curious about their claims. In the Google presentation Lerner seemed very eager to demonstrate that their device was closer than Polywell or Tri Alpha...
Now I am not a physicist, so I cant really say anything about it. The whole thing seems a bit too good to be true though... (which means that it probably is)

scareduck
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Re: Song and Dance.

Post by scareduck »

Helius wrote:What the heck were they doing in Chile?
Because they can't get anyone anywhere else to take them seriously...

We've been over and over these guys before. Eric Lerner comes awfully close to being a science crank.

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Post by tomclarke »

If you look at the latest papers from Chile (sorry I don't have the refs to hand, but was not difficult to find them) they say that the plasma current does not scale with input energy as expected. This is a problem. Since then there has been ominous silence.

It was always a method that had lots of problem attached, like electrode corrosion, even if it could generate net power. So I am not very hopeful. But someone else may understand more than me.

Tom

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Post by Aero »

I came across this focus fusion slide show, How it works. Maybe someone else is interested.
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/gallery/image_med/5/
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Aero wrote:I came across this focus fusion slide show, How it works. Maybe someone else is interested.
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/gallery/image_med/5/
Up to Slide 9 is plausible. Slide 11 claims "The magnetic field of the plasmoid causes it to shrink." in direct contradiction to the virial theorem. The business with the beams starting at Slide 17 is pretty wild, too.

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