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Hi all,

I'm sorry that it isn't related to the main subject, but I'm very curious how this Star Wars fiction technology can become reality. There has to be a way.


1. How are we going to extract matter from hyperspace ? LHC could do the work (?)
2. How can it be tapped?
3. What would look like a hypermatter fusion reactor?


Thanks

a) There DOESN'T have to be a way, since "hypermatter reactor" is just a term some guy made up because it sounds cool, and maybe because he figured out that even matter/antimatter fuel leaves the Death Star physically too small to do what it did onscreen.

b) even if there is a way, no one here has ANY FREAKING IDEA what it is. Established physics isn't far enough along to talk about hyperspace with any sort of confidence.

Besides, fuel availability isn't the problem with current fusion reactor designs. Power density and gain are the hurdles, and we have a LONG way to go before we need to try getting more fuel out of alternate dimensions, if that need ever materializes at all...

Sorry... been doing literature review work for my Ph.D. all day, short-tempered as a result...

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Isochroma wrote: it will certainly be highly controlled by the US military (as it already is)

Dude, polywell is open source. Got your self 2 million, you can build your own.

Thanks Isochroma, I hadn't had my daily feed of conspiracy theory yet.

But, heck, at least you're not off topic in a thread that's already about something fictional.

Mike "Card Carrying Member of the Blind Masses" Holmes

Hypermatter is just sci-fi.

You might as well ask whether a fusion reactor could be powered by beams shot from the horn of the Queen of the Space Unicorns.

Remeber, the US military is the largest criminal organization on Earth

No, they're the primary reason that people living in the free world, from Taiwan to South Korea to Europe, get to speak their minds and elect their leaders rather than living in an Orwellian nightmare of repression and dictatorship.

Chomsky is a fool. He made excuses for Mao and Pol Pot while tens of millions died, but condemns the very organization that keeps him free.

Isochroma wrote: The really important things in life don't need fusion. Society would be better off without the distraction of yet another way to obtain the energy needed to perpetuate the rape of the planet and its current toxic dead-end way of life.

I'd rather the funds be put to social programs, renewable energy (solar, wind, etc.), and countless other ways in which humans can help each other to live in sustainable harmony with each other and the planet, rather than becoming dependant on another technology which itself is totally reliant on the military-industrial system for its own existence.

Social programs and looking after the topsoil have their place. But so does energy production, without energy you would need an incredible ammount of toil and slavery to keep the present day world's population alive if it could be done at all.

You clearly recognise that by mentioning solar and wind, both have their pros (no emmissions does not use up finite reserves) and their cons (large land area, intermittency). Supplying energy to the world is an engineering problem and an economic problem, and nuclear fusion and fission are both reasonable possibilities to be consided right alongside solar and wind.

I wish people could keep a level head and read up in detail about different energy production issues and their advantages and dissadvantages without getting all touchy-feely about "raping the planet" and the like.

The material requirements for solar and wind generators are huge.

Aluminium is needed in large quantities for wind turbine blades and towers having a 15-20 year design life. Low energy output per unit mass of installed material means a massive demand for aluminium will be digging up holes and sucking up electricity for ore reduction like nothing ever seen.

Silicon demand for solar panels on a 10-15 year design life is worse, just to maintain an installed base in working condition. We will be essentially burning through silicon like it was being fed into a reactor since it is not recoverable once the panel is finished.

No free lunches my green friends. Your bad ideas just lead to bad outcomes like BIO-FUEL DRIVEN FOOD SHORTAGES. How do you feel about starving poor people just to feed your lunatic, green romantic engineering?

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Another one off his meds. Yow.

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There is no sane argument in favor of giving a murderous organization steeped at all levels in criminality a new tool for its sordid, disgusting purposes. Not even if the vermin (ie. populace at its feet and in distant, favored lands) may at some time in the future be 'given' the tool after the beast has had its fill of utility value.

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