Fundraising thru obfuscation?

Discuss funding sources for polywell research, including the non-profit EMC2 Fusion Development Corporation, as well as any other relevant research efforts.

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JohnP
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Fundraising thru obfuscation?

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How 'bout a DOE grant proposal to fund polywell, but don't call it a fusion device, call it a plasma gadget? Avoid all references to fusion, IEC, deuterium, etc. Have all the detailed diagrams you want, just don't label them with forbidden words.

Zixinus
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Post by Zixinus »

Nobody is going to buy that, especially now that the cat is out of the box.

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Post by JohnP »

I suppose there's rules about fraud too....

Zixinus
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Post by Zixinus »

Actually, not necessarily. I heard that cold fusion is getting some money too.

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Post by djolds1 »

Zixinus wrote:Actually, not necessarily. I heard that cold fusion is getting some money too.
Via the Navy, IIRC.

The US Navy knows full well what its funding, and the
electrolytic cell people do seem to have finally proven
the existence of some sort of anomalous nuclear fusion
process.
Vae Victis

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The US Navy knows full well what its funding, and the
electrolytic cell people do seem to have finally proven
the existence of some sort of anomalous nuclear fusion
process.
I personally don't think so, at least not without the hint of either truly incompetent administration or a black project hiding behind this. Somehow, using standard electrochemistry with deuterium gas somehow doesn't add up to me for fusion.

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Post by djolds1 »

Zixinus wrote:
The US Navy knows full well what its funding, and the
electrolytic cell people do seem to have finally proven
the existence of some sort of anomalous nuclear fusion
process.
I personally don't think so, at least not without the hint of either truly incompetent administration or a black project hiding behind this. Somehow, using standard electrochemistry with deuterium gas somehow doesn't add up to me for fusion.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7168
http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/USNavy.htm

I've tended to agree, but recent results funded by the USN's
SPAWAR Command seem to show that _some_ form of
anomalous nuclear fusion process is going on. The charged
particle tracks on the CR-39 polymer recording strips are
too numerous and too similar to standard fusion charged
particle tracks to be written off as background noise.

I doubt it ever produces fusion power. Probably a toy application
like sonofusion. Still, the results seem to be at odds with theory,
and experiment trumps theory. Might lead to some refinements
in the physical models.

Or perhaps they screwed up yet again. But those particle tracks
do have some persuasive power.
Vae Victis

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