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Fundraising thru obfuscation?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:25 pm
by JohnP
How 'bout a DOE grant proposal to fund polywell, but don't call it a fusion device, call it a plasma gadget? Avoid all references to fusion, IEC, deuterium, etc. Have all the detailed diagrams you want, just don't label them with forbidden words.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:40 pm
by Zixinus
Nobody is going to buy that, especially now that the cat is out of the box.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:31 pm
by JohnP
I suppose there's rules about fraud too....

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:24 pm
by Zixinus
Actually, not necessarily. I heard that cold fusion is getting some money too.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:07 am
by djolds1
Zixinus wrote:Actually, not necessarily. I heard that cold fusion is getting some money too.
Via the Navy, IIRC.

The US Navy knows full well what its funding, and the
electrolytic cell people do seem to have finally proven
the existence of some sort of anomalous nuclear fusion
process.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:16 am
by Zixinus
The US Navy knows full well what its funding, and the
electrolytic cell people do seem to have finally proven
the existence of some sort of anomalous nuclear fusion
process.
I personally don't think so, at least not without the hint of either truly incompetent administration or a black project hiding behind this. Somehow, using standard electrochemistry with deuterium gas somehow doesn't add up to me for fusion.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:41 am
by djolds1
Zixinus wrote:
The US Navy knows full well what its funding, and the
electrolytic cell people do seem to have finally proven
the existence of some sort of anomalous nuclear fusion
process.
I personally don't think so, at least not without the hint of either truly incompetent administration or a black project hiding behind this. Somehow, using standard electrochemistry with deuterium gas somehow doesn't add up to me for fusion.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7168
http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/USNavy.htm

I've tended to agree, but recent results funded by the USN's
SPAWAR Command seem to show that _some_ form of
anomalous nuclear fusion process is going on. The charged
particle tracks on the CR-39 polymer recording strips are
too numerous and too similar to standard fusion charged
particle tracks to be written off as background noise.

I doubt it ever produces fusion power. Probably a toy application
like sonofusion. Still, the results seem to be at odds with theory,
and experiment trumps theory. Might lead to some refinements
in the physical models.

Or perhaps they screwed up yet again. But those particle tracks
do have some persuasive power.