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4 Ways Republicans Are Full of Shit


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Prohibition - which you support - funds those gangs. At 7:27 into this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgEunrhm4Ys a police officer explains how to defeat the gangs. End Prohibition. Which begs the question GIT - why do you favor continuing support for gangs while pretending to do the opposite? Same for "D". We didn't defeat the alcohol gangs/cartels by more effective enforcement. We defeated them by legalizing. Amazing that such a lesson is so difficult to learn.
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I support prohibition of illicit drugs because it is obvious to anyone who is not screwed up by abusing them, that they are one of the greatest ills any society has ever faced. All human history clearly demonstrates that some behaviors need to be prohibited (this is in fact the primary function of civilization), and drug abuse is at the top of this list. If you were not a drug abuser, this would all be completely obvious to you. It should be obvious to you since you've been rendered unemployable for more than a decade by your addiction. Whiny complaints, pretense toward being a doctor who can diagnose and proscribe drugs, and all other forms of shirking all adult responsibility on your part notwithstanding. Obviously, drugs have ruined your life. Fact facts. You have been rendered completely unable to be a productive member of society for more than a decade by your addiction, and your pretense as holy crusader for the cause is not fooling anyone but you.

Anecdotes by other drug abusers about how drugs are not all bad and how all crime is the result of prohibition are obviously and stupidly wrong and not worth the time to open the link.
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"“Since 2005, states that allow some form of legal marijuana have seen a 30 percent annual increase in calls to poison control centers for marijuana ingestion, relative to a 1 percent increase in non-legal states,” the hospital states on its website."

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2683 ... iked-candy

Because the wicked just can't keep their sickness to themselves.
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GIThruster wrote:"“Since 2005, states that allow some form of legal marijuana have seen a 30 percent annual increase in calls to poison control centers for marijuana ingestion, relative to a 1 percent increase in non-legal states,” the hospital states on its website."

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2683 ... iked-candy

Because the wicked just can't keep their sickness to themselves.
Unlike alcohol, a marijuana overdose will kill no one. It is just unpleasant. And the alcohol folks are responsible for about 1/2 the road deaths not to mention 1,000 direct poisoning deaths a year. You aren't one of those vile alkys are you?
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MSimon wrote:
GIThruster wrote:"“Since 2005, states that allow some form of legal marijuana have seen a 30 percent annual increase in calls to poison control centers for marijuana ingestion, relative to a 1 percent increase in non-legal states,” the hospital states on its website."

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2683 ... iked-candy

Because the wicked just can't keep their sickness to themselves.
Unlike alcohol, a marijuana overdose will kill no one. It is just unpleasant. And the alcohol folks are responsible for about 1/2 the road deaths not to mention 1,000 direct poisoning deaths a year. You aren't one of those vile alkys are you?


The problem is that the "edibles" marijuana containing candy, brownies whatever don't list how much pot is in it and what the total THC content of said edible is to enable the consumer to gauge what they are ingesting. Sounds like a problem that could be fixed with reasonable labeling. Legal pot is a new industry it is understandable that there would be some growing pains. Another problem is that where pot is legal (Colorado) there is a problem with where you are and aren't allowed to smoke pot; this itself causes allot of people to turn to what they feel is the legally safer alternative of the "edibles". My understand is that ingesting pot unlike smoking the effect is inherently more delayed; making it more difficult for a novice user to judge how much they should take and how quickly.

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MSimon wrote:Prohibition - which you support - funds those gangs.
No. Drug abusers like you fund those gangs.
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GIThruster wrote:Because the wicked just can't keep their sickness to themselves.
Wicked...sickness...evil yeah you hate pot smokers alright, that's fundamentally what this is about. Your desire to see those evil vile wicked pot smoking hippies you hate so much punished like they deserved to be. The young also learn the ruinous habit of drinking alcohol and tobacco smoking from the old; do you think drinkers and smoker are evil and wicked?

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My best friend smokes dope almost every day. So you're rant has no basis in fact. I would note to you, Simon instigated this go-around, not me. It's just the rantings of a doper, who can't answer the issue that dope messes people up. Here we have a call by a cannabis salesman to watch your children because he knows the wicked well. They want to mess up the children because hey, that's funny! Here we have the evidence that when you legalize cannabis, the calls to the poison center increase 30% ANNUALLY year after year, and people putting drugs on candy, and people killing other people while on hallucinogen induced psychotic episodes, etc., and all you can do is think to say I must be hateful.

How pathetic.
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GIThruster wrote:My best friend smokes dope almost every day. So you're rant has no basis in fact. I would note to you, Simon instigated this go-around, not me. It's just the rantings of a doper, who can't answer the issue that dope messes people up.


Allegedly having a doper "friend" doesn't immunize you from the accusation of hating pot smokers any more than having a Jewish friend means you can't be anti-Semitic; just doesn't work like that. My answer to the problems of drug abuse as I have repeated said is to treat drug dependence/addiction like the medical conditions they are; treat them as such; not treat users/abusers as criminal scum who deserved to be incarcerated/punished. End this ruinously WOD which has damaged are Constitutional rights far more than the effects of legal and regulated would. Anyone who gives drugs (or alcohol, or cigarettes) to minors deserves to be jailed/punished; that has nothing to do with legal lawful pot users in Colorado the overwhelming majority of whom don’t give dope to kids.

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There are no legal pot smokers in CO. Cannabis is schedule one drug for the entire nation. It is illegal to smoke dope by federal law. Any time OBama wants top send the feds to CO, they can sweep up as many folks as they like, both users and sellers, and the sellers will do hard time. And yes, I know your point of view, but it is willingly ignorant of the facts. The facts have been posted here time and again, and obviously, you don't care about them. You're going to insist on your viewpoint regardless of the human suffering it will cause.
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williatw wrote:4 Ways Republicans Are Full of Shit


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http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/16/4-way ... ll-of-shit


Oh look, ignorant ass Libertarians are saying Republicans are full of shit so it must be so.


On the other hand, they are simply attempting to "otherize" people with whom they disagree about some very fundamental issues. I would say they are lying a$$ shitheads, but I am giving them the benefit of the doubt by suggesting that they are grossly stupid and misinformed about life and sanity in general.


Let us take their first Ignorant ass assumption; That Republicans are Monolithic. Got news for you bros, it ain't so. You are attempting to measure the rational principled Republican ideas by the standards of the RINO Rockefeller Limousine liberal Republican folks. Yeah, they got money and influence, but they don't make up the base.


So how about their second cheap shot? That Republicans spend on Defense and pensions. Well "Defense" is just about the most important reason for the existence of the government, and it is pretty d@mn close to the only NECESSARY thing that it does. Defense spending, per say, is exactly what the government OUGHT to be spending money on.


Now of course, those aforementioned limousine liberal Rino Rockefeller Republicans *DO* have a lot of investments in the various defense industries, and because they are IMMORAL bastards, they have no compunction about inflating our defense needs and steering as much of that money as they can towards their own self interest. But to say this is an accepted part of Republicans ideas or platform is just another example of ignorant ass Libertarians being ignorant asses.



As for Pensions, that is a consequence of letting Roosevelt get elected, and though Republicans are generally against government managed pensions (such as Social Security) in general, that ship has sailed and trying to reform it is a rock against which any candidate will break if he attempts it. Once again, Ignorant @ss Libertarians try to blame people for something which is really beyond their power to change.


The next Cheap shot they take is pretty much just a continuation of the first. Republican ideas and principles do not support social security, but it is the hand that has been dealt, and acknowledging that is basic pragmatism. We don't like it, but we can't fix it.


And as for the "big business with military contracts" smear, Again, ignorant ass (and most likely LYING) Libertarians are once again playing fast and loose with actual truth. The Military is going to be supplied by "Big Businesses with Military contracts" and the sooner you childish little f*cks grow up and understand that this is the only way it will EVER be done, the sooner you can stop prattling on in childish ignorance. Defense spending is one of the only LEGITIMATE expenditures by the government, and you're d@mn right Republicans are in favor of it because we have a f*cking clue about why we need it even if you don't. The abuses are a separate issue.



And let's see, the last two claims are basically the same claim, and once again the little childish F*ck libertarians simply want to toke their weed without anyone slapping their stupid little hands. Their arguments basically devolve to this.



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MSimon wrote:

Unlike alcohol, a marijuana overdose will kill no one. It is just unpleasant. And the alcohol folks are responsible for about 1/2 the road deaths not to mention 1,000 direct poisoning deaths a year. You aren't one of those vile alkys are you?


Young man leaps to death after eating pot-laced cookie


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DENVER (AP) - A Wyoming college student visiting Denver on spring break jumped to his death after eating a marijuana cookie that his friend legally purchased in one of Colorado's recreational pot shops, authorities said Wednesday.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... r/7220685/
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