No Warrant Necessary

MSimon · Post by **MSimon** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:46 pm

http://www.chicagolawbulletin.com/News- ... -2012.aspx

and

http://www.theweedblog.com/no-warrant-n ... tigations/

If you are not suspected of anything you have nothing to fear. Comrades.

ScottL · Post by **ScottL** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:58 pm

The Patriot Act really got the ball rolling and it just kept on going...

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:42 am

The Patriot Act really got the ball rolling and it just kept on going...

Yepp

Stubby · Post by **Stubby** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:16 am

You folks are SCREWED

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:06 am

You folks are SCREWED

I think everyone is. I dont have any illegal drugs at home, or anything illegal for that matter. But of course the question is whether that is still so relevant AFTER they have stormed your house without plausible cause.

DeltaV · Post by **DeltaV** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:48 am

Hmmphh. Where's the story about your iPhones' "Retina" display being used as a Fourier Optics sensor to watch you?

paperburn1 · Post by **paperburn1** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:11 pm

DeltaV wrote:Hmmphh. Where's the story about your iPhones' "Retina" display being used as a Fourier Optics sensor to watch you?

Written in 1948 the book was called 1984. But once again I espouse the opinion that it is not big brother we have to fear. Its little brother, the local police chief , the supermarket card, goggle scan, all gathering data to feed you products it determines you need or want. Or the local corrupt official that takes your personal data to force you out of business so he may take over. limiting your knowledge by controlling your choices.

choff · Post by **choff** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:32 pm

Our only protection is that like the internet, the tools they use to mess with us(to quote 'Enemy of the State') can be used back against them. Once enough politicians and officials get burned by their own tech they'll stop using it.

Tom Ligon · Post by **Tom Ligon** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:19 pm

I have been collecting quotes from Thomas Jefferson lately, researching a story on inventiveness. I'm finding a lot of wisdom regarding our current situations.

http://jpetrie.myweb.uga.edu/TJ.html

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.

The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.

Skipjack · Post by **Skipjack** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:23 am

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

This is funny, because I think that the US (and the French maybe) are among the countries with the most conspiracy theories regarding their governments.

ladajo · Post by **ladajo** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:13 pm

Skipjack wrote:
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
This is funny, because I think that the US (and the French maybe) are among the countries with the most conspiracy theories regarding their governments.

Try Turkey. Then look at the Arab countries. They live for conspiracy theories.