Maybe the Germans will could out the end of this crazy season stuff as adults rather than supressed children.
There are those who seem to want to continue to make them suppressed children.
Oh well.
And you guys thought *I* was nuts.
Skipjack wrote:This is bullshit. I have never heard anything about this and if this existed, the animal rights activists, who are much, much stronger here than they are in the US would throw a fit and noise that could be heard even by me.
Read the linked article. It is the animal right people who are complaining about it, not because they are necessarily against it on traditional morality grounds, but because they feel it is an abuse of the animals. Of course, I don't know how it is abusing an animal to let them do what they want to do anyway.
Madeleine Martin, the animal protection official for Hessian state government, said the law needed to be changed to make sex abuse of animals – known as zoophilia – a crime.
http://www.thelocal.de/society/20120203-40531.html
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —
Roughly 15% of the voters are anti-statist (a very old and somewhat withered American view of politics). Neither party has much to offer in that respect. Other than Republicans occasionally mouthing the words around election time.ladajo wrote:Did they? Or did they manage to move the 'general consenses' are bit more to the left, and thus as I take D's premise, move the overall idea a bit closer to victory?TDPerk wrote:Betruger- "You don't get it."
He certainly doesn't get it that these people failed, so they are not evidence supporting his dire predictions.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
Considering that legal meth was once a national craze why should they be afraid of it (diet pills etc.)?Kids are no longer afraid of meth.
And of course: Benzedrine inhalers.
Is it possible the dangers of the various drugs have been overblown to scare the rubes into giving up liberty for security. It is working quite nicely - thank you very much.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I prefer warm liver or the neighbor's wife if the liver is not warm enough. It's a lifestyle choice.Diogenes wrote:.
I can't make this Sh*t up as fast as it is happening.
New Craze in Germany: Animal Brothels
http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/02/05/new ... -brothels/“There are even animal brothels in Germany,” she said. Sex with animals was being increasingly seen as a lifestyle choice, and thus more acceptable.
Libertarian comment?
BTW if we could get about a trillion more laws nothing bad would ever happen. Or at least the appropriate people could be punished. If we could catch them.
Laws will either make people moral or create "moral" undergrounds and black markets. Everyone becomes a criminal. see SSR, U of. In countries where defiance of government is a habit enforcement will be difficult.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
A few laws against sex with warm liver should fix the problem. You have to wonder why that sort of thing is allowed. The degeneracy exhibited is so vile, it is impossible to imagine why the legislature allows this sort of thing to continue to go on. There ought to be a law. And enforcers.MSimon wrote:I prefer warm liver or the neighbor's wife if the liver is not warm enough. It's a lifestyle choice.Diogenes wrote:.
I can't make this Sh*t up as fast as it is happening.
New Craze in Germany: Animal Brothels
http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/02/05/new ... -brothels/“There are even animal brothels in Germany,” she said. Sex with animals was being increasingly seen as a lifestyle choice, and thus more acceptable.
Libertarian comment?
BTW if we could get about a trillion more laws nothing bad would ever happen. Or at least the appropriate people could be punished. If we could catch them.
Laws will either make people moral or create "moral" undergrounds and black markets. Everyone becomes a criminal. see SSR, U of. In countries where defiance of government is a habit enforcement will be difficult.
Sex with the neighbor's wife is more socially acceptable. By far.
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
OK, so I have looked this up and this is being blown waaaay out of proportion. This is the real story:
1. The law situation in this regard had been changed already in 1967. So this is not a new thing, alright.
2. The dear lady is blowing things a bit out of proportion. There were a hand full reported cases of animal abuse where some assholes broke into stables of farmers and had sex with the animals there. The farmer investigated and found out and naturally pressed charges. The rest is just conjecture by her. She is saying that with the internet animal zoophiles are organizing in groups (how big they really are is never ever mentioned anywhere, I guess they are not more than a few dozen people all together). The brothels allegedly exist, or are being discussed on these websites, but there are no actual reports about these really existing. No solid facts, just assumptions. And German society does not accept this in any way and they are reworking the law to make this a crime again. I guess that at the time when the original law was written down nobody assumed that any sane person would do such a thing and it was simply never written into law that this was a crime. It was simply an oversight, not a deliberate legalization of this.
1. The law situation in this regard had been changed already in 1967. So this is not a new thing, alright.
2. The dear lady is blowing things a bit out of proportion. There were a hand full reported cases of animal abuse where some assholes broke into stables of farmers and had sex with the animals there. The farmer investigated and found out and naturally pressed charges. The rest is just conjecture by her. She is saying that with the internet animal zoophiles are organizing in groups (how big they really are is never ever mentioned anywhere, I guess they are not more than a few dozen people all together). The brothels allegedly exist, or are being discussed on these websites, but there are no actual reports about these really existing. No solid facts, just assumptions. And German society does not accept this in any way and they are reworking the law to make this a crime again. I guess that at the time when the original law was written down nobody assumed that any sane person would do such a thing and it was simply never written into law that this was a crime. It was simply an oversight, not a deliberate legalization of this.
I think Germans have a proclivity for twisted sex. I visited German on business for about 3 weeks in late 2000. I noticed that even the magazine stands in the train stations sell pornographic magazine, often of sadomasochist themes, openly available with all of the other magazines. They were not hidden away like they would be in the states.Diogenes wrote:.
I can't make this Sh*t up as fast as it is happening.
New Craze in Germany: Animal Brothels
“There are even animal brothels in Germany,” she said. Sex with animals was being increasingly seen as a lifestyle choice, and thus more acceptable.
http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/02/05/new ... -brothels/
Libertarian comment?
Japan is similar. However, most of their pornography is in the form of manga (comics).
Having lived in Japan for 10 years, one actually becomes desensitized to it, but not in the way you might think. Rather, one gets to the point where sexuality, in and of itself, is no longer titillating. You tend to ignore it and think about whatever else is going on in your life that has nothing to do with sex at all.
I think our attitude towards it is probably healthier and less hypocrit than yours.I think Germans have a proclivity for twisted sex.
If we have weird attitude towards sex, then the americans have a weird attitude towards guns. At least our attitude towards sex does not get anybody killed...
Also, I dont know anyone here that does not find sexuality titilating... I just have to look at my wife in some fancy dress to get arroused
Honestly, you really couldn't make this stuff up - the latest craze in New Zealand, "buggering hamsters"!
http://www.realhamster.com/
Come on libertarians, let's here you try to defend the indefensible once again...
http://www.realhamster.com/
Come on libertarians, let's here you try to defend the indefensible once again...
So are you okay with the white slave trade? Obviously prohibition isn't working.MSimon wrote:I prefer warm liver or the neighbor's wife if the liver is not warm enough. It's a lifestyle choice.Diogenes wrote:.
I can't make this Sh*t up as fast as it is happening.
New Craze in Germany: Animal Brothels
http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/02/05/new ... -brothels/“There are even animal brothels in Germany,” she said. Sex with animals was being increasingly seen as a lifestyle choice, and thus more acceptable.
Libertarian comment?
BTW if we could get about a trillion more laws nothing bad would ever happen. Or at least the appropriate people could be punished. If we could catch them.
Laws will either make people moral or create "moral" undergrounds and black markets. Everyone becomes a criminal. see SSR, U of. In countries where defiance of government is a habit enforcement will be difficult.
Good to hear from you again. I was beginning to worry about you.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —
— Lord Melbourne —