joedead wrote:Excellent. Was waiting for you to finish this. I'll rip into this later this weekend.Perhaps this is unfair to characterize these events as the result of Athiesm, as it can be argued that the bigger component is the fact that they were left wing socialists. Possibly, but it seems to me that as socialists/communists are vehemenently athiestic, athiesm itself must be a component of their doctrine, and therefore must bear some responsibility.
Communists and Left Wing Socialist contained some athiest ideas, and they killed alot of people, therefore all athiests are morally bankrupt? Not great logic, but I'll devote more words to your fuzzy logic later.
Non Sequitur. I didn't allege that ALL athiests are morally bankrupt. I believe my point was that when they are a majority, the collective is morally bankrupt. (if by "Morally Bankrupt" you mean willing to kill a whole lot of people.)
I have little doubt that there are MANY very moral Athiests, but I believe this is because of the inadvertent influece of the dominant social mindset, which has been (except in the cases of the Soviet Union etc. ) theistic in nature.
This is of course, my opinion, and it is based on what I have learned about History and Human nature. At the moment, I cannot conceive of it being otherwise, which is why I would find a reasonable argument to the contrary to be fascinating.