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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby paperburn1 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:32 am

I do not think the support is there at the levels needed.
medical.. Marinol has been around forever so asking for medical use is just an uniformed population agreeing to what is already law. (but at 500 dollars a pill price control is what you guys should be working on)
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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby williatw » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:25 pm

paperburn1 wrote:I do not think the support is there at the levels needed.


The poll linked was from April; hopefully support will increase by the fall but I am not taking any bets. There is only one poll that counts and that is the one in November. Trouble is typically in off-year type elections young voter turnout tends to be low; they're the demographic most likely to support ending WOD and pot legalization. The old on the other hand are probably more likely both to vote in off year elections and to vote against legalization; they (the old) tend to resist change and prefer status quo.

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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby Diogenes » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:06 pm

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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby Diogenes » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:24 pm

John Mullins, who went to high school with Roof, told The Daily Beast that he remembers him as being “kind of wild.”

“He used drugs heavily a lot,” Mullins said. “It obviously harder than marijuana. He was like a pill popper, from what I understood. Like Xanax, and stuff like that.”




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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby williatw » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:24 pm

Gun-free zones an easy target for killers
by John R. Lott



The horrible tragedy last night that left nine people dead at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., probably could have been avoided. Like so many other attacks, the massacre took place in a gun-free zone, a place where the general public was banned from having guns. The gun-free zone obviously didn’t stop the killer from bringing a gun into the church.

Indeed, the circumstantial evidence is strong that these killers don’t attack randomly; they keep picking the few gun-free zones to do virtually all their attacks.

For some reason, people who would never put up a “gun-free zone” sign in front of their own homes, put up such signs for other sensitive areas that we would like to protect.

Time after time, we see that these killers tell us they pick soft targets. With just two exceptions, from at least 1950, all the mass public shootings have occurred in these gun-free zones. From last summer’s mass public killers in Santa Barbara and Canada, to the Aurora movie theater shooter, these killers made it abundantly clear in their diaries or on Facebook how they avoided targets where people with guns could stop them.

And even when concealed handgun permit holders don’t deter the killers, the permit holders stop them. Just a couple of weeks ago, a mass public shooting at a liquor store in Conyers, Ga., was stopped by a concealed handgun permit holder. A couple of people had already been killed by the time the permit holder arrived, but according to Rockdale County Sheriff Eric Levett:





"I believe that if Mr. Scott did not return fire at the suspect, then more of those customers would have [been] hit by a gun. It didn’t appear that he cared who he shot or where he was shooting until someone was shooting back at him. So, in my opinion, he saved other lives in that store."


- Rockdale County Sheriff Eric Levett

Yet, even though there was a video of this heroic action, the story got no national news coverage. Case after case occurs where concealed handgun permit holders stop what would have been mass shootings. While many don’t get news coverage because the permit holder prevents people from being killed, some, such as the recent Georgia case, still don’t get coverage even when there are dead bodies.

These heroes just don’t stop attacks in small towns in Georgia. In the last year, multiple mass public shootings in both Chicago and Philadelphia (the third and fourth largest cities in the U.S.) have been stopped.

But just as frustrating as the lack of coverage these heroes receive is the news blackout on reporting mass public shootings when killers pick places where victims are not allowed to defend themselves. While the news will go into details about how the killer got his guns or the types of weapons used (and often the initial news reports are wrong), the simplest fact would be whether the attack occurred in a gun-free zone. The gun-free zone signs are often right in front of the buildings and are seemingly impossible to miss.

The gun control debate would probably be dramatically different if even some of the news stories would occasionally mention that another attack has occurred in a gun-free zone. I have been able to find just one Associated Press story that mentions an attack occurred in a gun-free zone -- a recent attack at a mall this year in Pittsburgh.

Over the years, news editors have told me that it would be injecting politics into the coverage to mention gun-free zones. But why would that be any more political than the rest of their coverage?

Churches, like the one in Charleston, preach peace, but the killer there probably chose that target because he knew the victims were defenseless.




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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby Diogenes » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:37 pm

An armed congregation would have certainly stopped it quickly.
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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby choff » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:48 pm

It wasn't just drugs, the guy had the Apartheid Rhodesian and S. African flags on his jacket. If he wore it into the church, that should have been a warning sign to the people inside.
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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby Diogenes » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:03 pm

choff wrote:It wasn't just drugs, the guy had the Apartheid Rhodesian and S. African flags on his jacket. If he wore it into the church, that should have been a warning sign to the people inside.




I'm sure everyone is aware of that. I have no doubt that the media people will be hammering that tidbit in every story about him from now on. I just wanted to point out that he was a heavy drug user, which is something the media will very likely ignore completely as they did with various other mass murderers.


He was a heavy drug user.
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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby williatw » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:40 pm

Diogenes wrote:
John Mullins, who went to high school with Roof, told The Daily Beast that he remembers him as being “kind of wild.”

“He used drugs heavily a lot,” Mullins said. “It obviously harder than marijuana. He was like a pill popper, from what I understood. Like Xanax, and stuff like that.”



Yes he was into all kinds of drugs far more serious than pot. Obviously a reason why pot shouldn't be legalized, taxed, and regulated as to contaminates, THC content, and access to underage youth; cause keeping it illegal is working so well. You see support for the WOD while the president sees predictably:



Washington (CNN)—President Barack Obama on Thursday called the nine deaths in the Charleston, South Carolina, church shooting "senseless murders" and suggested more gun control is needed in the wake of the tragedy.
"Any death of this sort is a tragedy. Any shooting involving multiple victims is a tragedy," said Obama, as Vice President Joe Biden stood alongside him. "There is something particularly heartbreaking about death happening in a place in which we seek solace and we seek peace."




http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/politics/ ... index.html

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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby williatw » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:28 am

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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby Diogenes » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:51 am

williatw wrote:Yes he was into all kinds of drugs far more serious than pot. Obviously a reason why pot shouldn't be legalized, taxed, and regulated as to contaminates, THC content, and access to underage youth; cause keeping it illegal is working so well. You see support for the WOD...




Not really. I just see another example of someone who screwed themselves up with drugs, and as a consequence they hurt other people.


You see, all the Libertarians keep telling us that nobody has a right to tell them what they can put in their own body, and that it doesn't hurt anyone but the person doing it.


This case is just another example of where the Libertarians are wrong.


Adam Lanza was also on some heavy psychotropic stuff.

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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby MSimon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:41 pm

paperburn1 wrote:I do not think the support is there at the levels needed.
medical.. Marinol has been around forever so asking for medical use is just an uniformed population agreeing to what is already law. (but at 500 dollars a pill price control is what you guys should be working on)

You should study up on the entourage effect. Marinol alone does not seem to be as effective as a mixture of cannabinoids. In fact there are cases (I'd have to look them up) where Marinol alone had zero effect but cannabis was quite effective.

All this prejudice is really retarding medicine.

And all because Harry Anslinger needed a government job. And R.W. Hurst wanted to protect his investment in trees and do some hurt on Mexicans. It is a rather sordid tale.

And let us not forget Nixon who wanted a covert war on Blacks.

"[Nixon] emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks" Haldeman, his Chief of Staff wrote, "The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."
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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby MSimon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:49 pm

D,

There is absolutely no proof of cause and effect re: drugs. None. Nada. Zero. If there is - show me. All you will be able to find is correlations.

So the drug use could be a symptom and not a cause. And if that is the case isolating drug users with a War is absolutely the wrong thing to do.

But prejudice controls the whole thing way more than rational thought.

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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby MSimon » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:53 pm

The best evidence - if drugs derange minds why doesn't it do that to everyone who uses them? If drugs are the cause shouldn't we see that effect?
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Re: Latest drug addict loons.

Postby paperburn1 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:00 pm

Everyone seem to be skirting the main problem. Where did he get the gun?. From his father as a gift because he could not legally own or purchase one for himself.
He failed checks 2,3 and 5. of the NIC background checks.

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