Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

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Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

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Commenter Neil has a few words (I know him personally - 'net friend) to say. He is a techie (EE).
http://classicalvalues.com/2013/12/some ... ment-97025

Here is my short version:

Neil says: Libertarians don’t have an effect. For 80% of of them, “I’m a libertarian” actually translates to “I can’t stand Democrat policies, but for cultural reasons I can’t vote Republican.” They will not affect the vote.

Exactly right. Very well put. I call the “cultural” stuff – moral socialism.

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Let me add here that the defect is similar to that of the left - way to high an estimation of government power. Plus only looking at the good side of that power and down playing or ignoring the bad effects. In addition the unseen is not even contemplated. i.e. the invisible losses are not even considered. Loss of tax revenue say. Or labor market distortions. Or losses from avoiding government. Or the costs of policing. And the really biggie - black markets.
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For starters the Libertarians aren't libertarians.
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Schneibster wrote:For starters the Libertarians aren't libertarians.
And exactly how do you reconcile that with the start of a sentence or the headline of a post (which I do in all caps).
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Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

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Because most of them are too smart to be Democrats, and too Childish to be Republicans.
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MSimon wrote:
Schneibster wrote:For starters the Libertarians aren't libertarians.
And exactly how do you reconcile that with the start of a sentence or the headline of a post (which I do in all caps).
Ummm, so you don't care to deny my assertion?
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Re: Why Neither Party Attracts Libertarians

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Diogenes wrote:Because most of them are too smart to be Democrats, and too Childish to be Republicans.
Personally I could vote for Rand Paul.

http://classicalvalues.com/2012/11/thos ... andwiches/

I hardly see how not preferring statists (of either party) is childish. The "small government party" in its current configuration likes big government. Just a very little smaller than the big government party. I hardly see that as an inducement.
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