Diogenes wrote:Yes, we should have gone into Iraq.
Obviously not, looking at the American lives lost and the lack of result after years of war and trillions OF TAXPAYER MONEY wasted.
We didn't botch the war, we botched the peace. Had we handled Iraq the same way we handled the De-Nazification of Germany, we would not have had the massive ClusterF*ck which followed after the war was won.
With our stupid social engineering, we triggered a second war.
Diogenes wrote:The evidence available at the time left no other reasonable course of action.
There was no evidence! Everyone knew it too. That is why the US was pretty much on its own with this war. You should have listened to your allies in Europe. Even England was not 100% sold on this.
There was intercepted radio traffic discussing the deployment of nuclear weapons. Even the Iraqi Commanders thought they had nuke bombs. Saddam was doing everything he could to convince the Iranians that he had nuclear weapons, but he firmly believed our intelligence gathering apparatus was so good, that we wouldn't be fooled.
Given that most of them are graduates from Ivy League colleges, he very greatly overestimated their competence.
And listening to Europe is generally a dumb idea.
Diogenes wrote:Iraq was fairly peaceful after the war
You are so funny.
And you think it's a joke because you weren't paying attention to what happened. Iraq WAS relatively peaceful after the war. The Shitstorm didn't start until we told the Sunnis that they needed to wipe us out. Prior to that, there wasn't a massive insurgency bent on killing us, but we decided to go and create one.
*I* was paying attention at this time, and the very day I heard the Bremer announcement I predicted that Iraq would erupt into massive violence in the Sunni areas of the country. I think it was like three days later that the massive explosions began. Utterly predictable. In fact, I did. I told anyone who would listen until they were tired of hearing it.
Diogenes wrote:No, this was a bad idea to begin with. Blaming Obama for the mess is ridiculous. He got the US troops out of it and is saving the US taxpayer billions in wasteful government spending.
Obama threw away all the blood and sacrifice given in the attempt to create a functional democracy in the heart of the middle east. He did it because he wanted political optics to make it appear as if the super narcissist meant what he said.
And I very much doubt you give a flying f*ck about US Government spending, but if you do, you ought to come out squarely against the fool who is currently spending the nation into bankruptcy, and who's long term legacy of disaster will dwarf anything which has ever happened before.