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Warming, what warming?

Postby TDPerk » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:21 am

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... r_19_years

This squares with my experience growing vegetable garden. Plant when the text in the package says for your region, and like as not it will rot.

Wait a few more weeks or a month, and you're fine.

30 years ago, my dad did not have such problems with anything like this frequency.

Take out the upward adjustments to historical data, and we've actually been cooling a bit.
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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby Diogenes » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:22 pm

‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby hanelyp » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:56 pm

The CO2 driven models have been invalidated, and the data shown to be molested... but for vast numbers of people all they see is the propaganda claiming we need to shut down fossil fuel driven industry or the Earth will be destroyed.

Personally, I'm a lot more concerned that we may face a little ice age in the near future, with our energy industry crippled by political correctness and unable to cope.
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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby JLawson » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:46 pm

If a model predicts something - and it happens, then reality coincides with the model.

If a model predicts something that doesn't happen, then reality is not coinciding with the model. No matter how attached you are to that model, no matter how much grant money it's earned with the promises of 'it's getting better!', sooner or later it's going to be apparent that reality is not going along with the model.

The assumption is that the planet is warming. If models are created using that assumption, is it ethical to 'adjust the data' gathered from reality to show that the model is correct?

At this point, the polar bear should have been endangered to double-digit population levels and the Arctic ice cap gone completely.

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I think our energy industry could cope with an ice age - IF we can get them freed from a government that sees regulation as an unmitigated good thing, with 'the more the better' being used as their operating philosophy.
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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby paperburn1 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:12 am

Kinda sad if true, I was banking on the polar sea routes to be open longer to revitalize the economy.
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Re: Warming, what warming?

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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby TDPerk » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:05 pm

Would it be untoward--or for that matter, expecting to much honesty--to start a pool for when tomclarke admits he's been had?
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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby mvanwink5 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:41 pm

TDP, even if we went full bore into the big glaciation phase TC would just blame the cooling on the warming caused by manmade, abnormal levels of CO2. :lol:

In a way, I am happy the Progs are fixing the atmosphere. It keeps them occupied somewhat. Imagine what would happen if they started to fix anything else? We have enough broke things already from their meddling. :roll:
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Re: Warming, what warming?

Postby TDPerk » Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:26 am

"expecting to much"

Dang homonyms.
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Re: Warming, what warming?

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