Bill Gates Sponsoring Palladium-Based LENR Technology

[ohiovr]

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Albrecht/2014- ... ology.html

I would love to be wrong about LENR and Gates be right.

[ohiovr]

from another site:

640 Kelvin ought to be enough for anybody.

[ohiovr]

Lets just presume Gates is on to something. Lets say you could get 100 watts out of 1 oz of Palladium. You could certainly make tea with it. To do it in a reasonable amount of time you would probably want 5 oz of Palladium. Your tea maker would cost 4070 bucks. To recoup your investment in terms of energy saved, if you used the machine for 24 hours a day, it would take you 9.3 years to break even. Now if you wanted to make electricity with it you'll need a steam engine. Green turbine makes a decent one for one grand. Its 15% efficient and produces about a Kw of power. To make 1 kilowatt of power from steam produced from palladium, you would need 66.7 oz of palladium. That'd cost you a total of $54,267. Not including the turbines and boilers etc.

54,267/.1 = 543,667 Kw/h for how much energy you will have to produce before you break even. At the rate of 1 Kw, it will take 62 years to pay break even.

That makes solar look a lot better doesn't it

[Ivy Matt]

Bill Gates recently made a visit to ENEA-Frascati, Italy's premier energy research lab, accompanied by Lowell Wood. Gates was photographed in the company of Vittorio Violante, who undoubtedly briefed him on the cold fusion research being conducted at ENEA-Frascati. Whether that was the main purpose of his visit or merely a sideshow is not clear.

As far as I am aware, Gates has not yet sponsored any cold fusion research, whether involving nickel or palladium. The article on Kitco gives no supporting evidence to the claim that Gates has funded cold fusion research, and seems to be encouraging speculation on palladium futures.

[ohiovr]

Makes sense after all Kitco is all about selling precious metals

[hanelyp]

Better his money than mine.

[kunkmiester]

On the other hand, isn't it easier to get the anomalies that spur this research with palladium than nickel or other stuff? It would make sense to get a small lab to reliably reproduce such, then work out what exactly is happening, THEN start messing with nickel and cheaper materials and such.

[ohiovr]

On the other hand, isn't it easier to get the anomalies that spur this research with palladium than nickel or other stuff? It would make sense to get a small lab to reliably reproduce such, then work out what exactly is happening, THEN start messing with nickel and cheaper materials and such.

What does palladium have in common with Nickel?

[djolds1]

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Albrecht/2014- ... ology.html

I would love to be wrong about LENR and Gates be right.

I'm quite convinced that SOMETHING nuclear is going on in those LENR electrolytic cells. The controls to exclude external contamination have been too thorough, and the appearance of reaction byproducts like helium, nuclear ashes and honest to god anomalous heat are too frequent. But the DD reactions the enthusiasts posit seem... improbable. Robert Bussard's hypothesis seems most probable; these are deuterium-metal fusion reactions, with the close packing of the deuterium in the metal latices overcoming coulomb repulsion.

[kunkmiester]

On the other hand, isn't it easier to get the anomalies that spur this research with palladium than nickel or other stuff? It would make sense to get a small lab to reliably reproduce such, then work out what exactly is happening, THEN start messing with nickel and cheaper materials and such.

What does palladium have in common with Nickel?

They're both used as LENR fuels/catalysts. IIRC the original work back in the 90s was with palladium and/or platinum, what's-his-name in Italy is using nickel as I recall. if more work(and more anomaly) happens with a particular material, it makes sense to focus on that.

[krenshala]

Just looking at the Periodic Table, they are in the same column: Nickle (28), Palladium (46), Platinum (78), Darmstadtium (110).

[ohiovr]

With hot fusion we know pretty well why it isn't practical, or at least we understand what is going on inside those machines to a fairly good degree. If they don't know what is going on inside a LENR device, then how will they ever hope to improve it, stabilize it, etc. If there are low energy reactions or transmutations, where can they find the activity in nature? They even found a natural uranium reactor....