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MSimon wrote:NO WONDER BLACK PEOPLE HATE THE POLICE.
I have lots of black friends and none of them hate the police. Some of them even use Cannabis, and even they don't hate the police.

You need to stop sharing your diseases, simon. It's really old and it was old years ago when I first tried to get you to stop. You're sick and need a therapist. This is not therapy and this forum does not deserve what you constantly do to it.
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Denver policeman accused repeatedly of excessive force taken off streets
http://news.yahoo.com/denver-policeman- ... 55921.html

A Denver police officer who has cost the city more than $1 million to settle excessive force cases for which he was never disciplined has been pulled from street patrol, a department spokesman said on Friday.

Shawn Miller has been placed on "non-line assignment" duty pending a review of his conduct and a plan to improve his performance, Denver Police Commander Matthew Murray told Reuters.

According to internal affairs files released this week, 40 complaints have been lodged against Miller during his nine years on the force, nearly half from citizens who accused him of excessive force, using profane language and threatening to arrest people for no reason.
How about some root cause analysis GIT? Or is that beyond you?
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MSimon wrote:How about some root cause analysis GIT? Or is that beyond you?
It's certainly beyond me. Unlike you, who has an excuse for everything, I don't make excuses, nor ponder possible causes, when I am not in possession of the facts. Taken any given case, there are likely a host of unknown causes, and I am not a therapist. One needs real info to make these kinds of judgements and we simply do not have any.

I have never said we have a perfect system. Doesn't matter. Even if the system were perfect, people are not and these kinds of things are going to happen. That's life. People abuse position, power and authority and there's no way to get around this. We do what we can to stop if from happening and try to respond appropriately when it does, but this is what we do in all of life. There' nothing new to see here. There are bad cops. News flash: there are ALWAYS going to be bad cops! This does not mean you should whine about it and use it as an excuse to punish the good cops simply because this suits your criminal mindset.
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Video Exonerates Man Set Up By Louisiana Cops And Prosecutors

If not for cell phone video, 47-year-old disabled veteran Douglas Dendinger could be going to prison — because of an apparent coordinated effort by Washington Parish, La. cops and prosecutors who falsely accused him of battery and witness intimidation.

As New Orleans’ WWL reports, Dendinger’s two-year nightmare began on Aug. 20, 2012, when he was paid $50 to serve a court summons on behalf of his nephew against Bogalusa police officer Chad Cassard in a police brutality lawsuit.

Dendinger handed Cassard a white envelope containing the documents and says he went on his way. But 20 minutes later, police showed up to Dendinger’s house and arrested him. He was put in jail on charges of simple battery, obstruction of justice and intimidating a witness.

http://news.yahoo.com/video-exonerates- ... 32601.html
Root cause?
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MSimon wrote:
Video Exonerates Man Set Up By Louisiana Cops And Prosecutors

If not for cell phone video, 47-year-old disabled veteran Douglas Dendinger could be going to prison — because of an apparent coordinated effort by Washington Parish, La. cops and prosecutors who falsely accused him of battery and witness intimidation.

As New Orleans’ WWL reports, Dendinger’s two-year nightmare began on Aug. 20, 2012, when he was paid $50 to serve a court summons on behalf of his nephew against Bogalusa police officer Chad Cassard in a police brutality lawsuit.

Dendinger handed Cassard a white envelope containing the documents and says he went on his way. But 20 minutes later, police showed up to Dendinger’s house and arrested him. He was put in jail on charges of simple battery, obstruction of justice and intimidating a witness.

http://news.yahoo.com/video-exonerates- ... 32601.html
Root cause?

Ah, you posted this. I was going to post it in a thread entitled "Look! Another case of police abuse that has nothing to do with drugs!"


So why are *YOU* posting this? Not seeing a drug angle here. (Though I shan't be surprised if you find one.) What I am seeing is ordinary abuse caused by arrogant cops thinking they can get away with it.


I am all too familiar with the mindset of cops who think they can do anything they want and don't have to respect other people's rights. You think it only applies to the drug issue, but it occurs all across the spectrum of their interactions with the public.


Of course, this is another one of those chicken or egg scenarios. Do arrogant control freaks gravitate towards work in Law enforcement, or does Law enforcement turn otherwise decent people into arrogant control freaks?


Some of both I think.
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‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
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Well this one bears watching:

http://news.yahoo.com/central-florida-m ... 31414.html

Central Florida man killed by police serving search warrant
The deputy who fired the shot was Todd Raible, 36, a 10-year employee of the sheriff's office, according to Davidson, who said no one was arrested.
Looks like another wrong house SWAT raid gone bad.
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http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/02/obama ... alaw-plan/
President Barack Obama today introduced his plan for a progressive takeover of state and local policing.

“We have a great opportunity… to really transform how we think about community law enforcement relations,” he said Monday.

“We need to seize that opportunity… this is something that I’m going to stay very focused on in the months to come,” Obama said, as he touted a new interim report from his Task Force on 21st Century Policing.

Obama also instructed his media allies to help federalize policing, and to sideline the critics of centralized policing rules. “I expect our friends in the media to really focus on what’s in this report and pay attention to it,” he instructed.
Consider how abusive police will be if this comes to pass.
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Ferguson employee fired, 2 others on leave over emails

What is the country coming to when police can't be racist on the job?

http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-employee ... 29573.html
Ferguson Mayor James Knowles says one police department employee was fired and two others are on administrative leave over racist emails uncovered in a Justice Department investigation into the city's law enforcement practices.

Knowles' comments at a press conference Wednesday were the first response from city leaders to the federal investigation that found systemic racial bias in law enforcement in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson. Knowles read a brief statement but did not take questions. Police Chief Tom Jackson did not attend.
And it looks like the police were behaving towards the citizens in just the way most citizens regard the police - protect and serve has nothing to do with it. Revenue generation is everything.
The Justice Department report said police work was focused on generating revenue from black residents from fines and fees, rather than protecting the community.
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hanelyp wrote:http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/02/obama ... alaw-plan/
President Barack Obama today introduced his plan for a progressive takeover of state and local policing.

“We have a great opportunity… to really transform how we think about community law enforcement relations,” he said Monday.

“We need to seize that opportunity… this is something that I’m going to stay very focused on in the months to come,” Obama said, as he touted a new interim report from his Task Force on 21st Century Policing.

Obama also instructed his media allies to help federalize policing, and to sideline the critics of centralized policing rules. “I expect our friends in the media to really focus on what’s in this report and pay attention to it,” he instructed.
Consider how abusive police will be if this comes to pass.
Well that explains why he hasn't done much about Prohibition.

"I smelled pot" will be the excuse for everything.
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Note that the first page of this search:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Ta ... y+Policing

is almost all government sources.
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“The report release comes at a time when the Department of Justice is unable to hold racist vigilantes and violent, discriminatory police accountable, a sharp contrast to the visions and ideals detailed in these latest recommendations. Attorney General Holder himself has called for changes to the unreasonable standard to prosecute civil rights cases, a bolder proposal than what we see coming from the task force. Time and time again when a Black person is killed at the hands of law enforcement we see no repercussion.

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/20 ... y-policing
Racist enforcement of Prohibition laws are going to be used against all of us.

Conservatives are SO smart.
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Diogenes wrote:Oh, and while we are at it.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/feds-raid-te ... l-meeting/
Well you wanted very strong police forces and the gutting of the 4th Amendment to go after dopers. It looks like they are not stopping there. Pity really. May I suggest some history?
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
In this country it will be, "First they came for the dopers..."

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D,

In case you hadn't noticed. Police brutality - first directed against dopers and generally condoned because it was used against evil dope fiends - is starting to generalize.

Something I warned about years ago in these parts and was laughed off as the ravings of a dope crazed lunatic.

But see, thing is I know history and human nature. And once you unleash the dark side it does not stay confined to the intended channels.

Closing the Pandora's Box is going to be hell. A LOT of precedent has been set.
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You think it only applies to the drug issue, but it occurs all across the spectrum of their interactions with the public.
No I don't think that. What I think is that Prohibition (alcohol, drugs, whatever) makes it much worse. And what do those Prohibitions do that exacerbates every thing?

Everyone is a suspect.

Alcohol Prohibition was no different - just look at the history. Read about the Wickersham Commission.

http://law.jrank.org/pages/11309/Wicker ... ssion.html

The report attributes the police problem to the lack of professionalism. Well we have professional police and the problems have returned. Prohibitions do something to police. And it is obvious: Every citizen is a suspect.

And what else? Anyone involved in the dope trade is evil incarnate. You can tell that because murderers get lighter sentences. So what happens when everyone is suspected of committing great evil?

What we have is a witch hunt on massive proportions. A very great evil is being done. And worse - it was done for political purposes. Alcohol Prohibition was done in part to go after Democrats. They organized in saloons. Drug Prohibition was Nixon's way of going after Democrats and hippies.

That is two in a row.

So you have to ask yourself - what is it about Republicans that makes them want to do politics in a Stalinist fashion?

And the Democrats? Well they have their own Stalinist methods. CO2 is a poison gas. Plant food is poison?

But the Republicans can not counter that well unless they give up their own Stalinist tendencies.

Confess. Repent. - then let us join together and go after the Stalinists on the left.

And for God's sake - smaller government - across the board - no exceptions.
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