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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby paperburn1 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:47 pm

Things are going to get sporty on the trade deal after this happened. Winnie the Poo is going to be pissed

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-wil ... xpert-says
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:06 am

House approves spending bill with $5.7B for border wall


The House of Representatives Thursday approved a bill that would fund most of the federal government through early February -- and provides $5.7 billion for President Trump's long-promised border wall, increasing the chances of a partial government shutdown later this week.


Eight Republicans joined all 177 voting Democrats to oppose the measure, which passed 217-185. The bill now goes to the Senate, where it is certain to fall short of the 60 votes needed for passage since the chamber's 49 Democrats are against funding the wall. That, in turn, makes it more likely that parts of the federal government, including nine of 15 Cabinet-level departments and dozens of agencies, will cease operations at midnight Friday. The vote came hours after Trump told House GOP leaders that he would not enact a Senate-passed package that does not provide money for the barrier.





https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house- ... order-wall

They are saying that the bill passed the House (with the border funding intact) but hasn't a prayer of getting the 60 votes necessary to pass the Senate. Okay; anyone here care to explain to me why the Republicans can't invoke the "nuclear option" and pass it with just 51 votes? Or just 50 votes and VP breaking the tie passing it? No one seems to be even mentioning that option yet, don't know why.

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby paperburn1 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:33 am

Reconciliation (nuclear option) is a legislative process of the United States Congress that allows expedited passage of certain budgetary legislation on spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit with a simple majority vote in both the House (218 votes) and Senate (51 votes). Senate rules prohibit filibustering and impose a 20-hour cap on the total time for debate, motions and amendments related to reconciliation bills.
Reconciliation bills can be passed on spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit] once a year per topic unless Congress passes a revised budget resolution for that fiscal year (under section 304 of the Congressional Budget Act).what has happened is budget resolution's reconciliation instructions affect both spending and revenues, so no further reconciliation legislation can occur on these topics in the same fiscal year without a revised budget resolution.
So this imposes the requirement of 60 votes to pass this legislation.
I think I got that right.
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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

Postby williatw » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:05 am

paperburn1 wrote:Reconciliation (nuclear option) is a legislative process of the United States Congress that allows expedited passage of certain budgetary legislation on spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit with a simple majority vote in both the House (218 votes) and Senate (51 votes). Senate rules prohibit filibustering and impose a 20-hour cap on the total time for debate, motions and amendments related to reconciliation bills.
Reconciliation bills can be passed on spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit] once a year per topic unless Congress passes a revised budget resolution for that fiscal year (under section 304 of the Congressional Budget Act).what has happened is budget resolution's reconciliation instructions affect both spending and revenues, so no further reconciliation legislation can occur on these topics in the same fiscal year without a revised budget resolution.
So this imposes the requirement of 60 votes to pass this legislation.
I think I got that right.



Ahead of Shutdown, GOP Senator Floats ‘Nuclear’ Option to Build Trump’s Border Wall

Sen. Steve Daines pitched rules change after House GOP voted to amend spending stopgap

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Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., is advocating for changing the rules to pass a bill funding the border wall for President Donald Trump.

When senators make their way back to the Capitol Friday to go back to the drawing board on government funding, there are sure to be some calls to change the rules to help get President Donald Trump the border wall.

Maybe even from Trump himself.

Sen. Steve Daines, a member of the Appropriations Committee, is floating using the “nuclear option” to effectively change the Senate’s rules to make it easier to agree to the latest House-passed spending bill that provides in excess of $5 billion in funds for the wall at the U.S.-Mexico border.
“House just passed a bill that fully funds government and enables @realDonaldTrump to secure our border/build the wall,” the Montana Republican tweeted. “Senate can do same by eliminating the filibuster. 51 votes, same as we do for judges!”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has long said the support does not exist for extending the simple-majority threshold to limit debate to the legislative calendar, and back in January a senior Senate GOP aide said the votes did not exist within the Republican Conference for such a move.


Senators are expected back in town for possible votes Friday afternoon, hours ahead of a government funding deadline with what seems to once again be an inevitable lapse in funding.

There is no reason to think that has changed, especially with Democrats about to take over control of the House of Representatives.

The “nuclear option” is so named because it involves having a majority of senators change Senate precedents in order to effectively change the rules without the two-thirds that would be required to invoke cloture on changes to the standing rules themselves.

Even though it is beyond a long shot, President Donald Trump himself has pushed for the setting of a simple-majority threshold, and there should be every expectation that he could again on Friday.



https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/ ... order-wall

This would be a nice Christmas present for Trump (and America) if this comes to pass..

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Re: Sell The Whitehouse to Trump

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