What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby mvanwink5 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:15 am

Forgetting the Libyan 'success'? How did that work out for a stable non terrorist state and the great migration?

But, you have a point, 1.5 billion, an easy number to contend with for the geniuses. Looks like the European solution is surrender by sublimation (I recall somewhere the bloody Hindu - Muslim riots, must be the temporary :twisted: dream solution, and Kashmir is so peaceful).
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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby mvanwink5 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:15 am

The next guy and cronies will do something different, more bombs, etc. The only group benefiting as far as I can see are the military suppliers (and Banksters). But then there is the unsustainable spending set to go Greek. Meddling and unintended consequences, and constant democratic gubberment foreign policy churn.
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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby ladajo » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:25 am

The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)
What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby hanelyp » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:46 am

Regarding 1.5 Billion Muslims, I note 2 points:

- they are deeply divided into 2 factions almost as inclined to shoot at each other as to shoot at the rest of us.

- I expect a great many are muslim as the religion of least resistance. Prune enough of the worst and those remaining have a hope of moderating.

As for potential political explosions around the world in the near future:

- The Chinese economy appears to be a house of cards on the edge of collapse. It's been speculated they may engage in military adventures as a distraction.

- Last I heard the Russian economy was weak and dependent on oil exports. That was before the recent plummet in oil prices below the level Russia needs for their exports.

- Europe appears on course for not just demographic collapse in the face of immigration, but also economic decline and eventual collapse under socialist policies. Greece is just the preview.

In the US:

- The economy is in far worse shape than the official numbers indicate.

- years of effectively zero interest rates and quantitative easing have set the stock market up for one Mother of a collapse.

- Major elements of government have lost all credibility with elements of the population. Laws are being enforced that many of us feel are invalid. And yet other elements of society don't think the government is going far enough.

And when the US economy takes another sharp downturn the rest of the world follows.
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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby ladajo » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:26 pm

The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)

What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby mvanwink5 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:56 pm

Actually, I am rethinking my worry about the Muslim immigrant European invasion. The disastrous results could likely galvanize the general European populace opposition with blowback overturning of Eurozone, German, France, etc leadership. In other words, the Euro frog wakes up and jumps the pot. So, this could get interesting. :shock:
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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby choff » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:13 pm

Now that the Russians are in Syria, Iranian troops are apparently flocking in to join them in combating ISIS. This could be problematic for the Russians if those same Iranian troops decided to launch attacks on Israel. The situation in the ME could not be more FUBAR.(I could be wrong, our great leaders might outdo themselves yet.)
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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby ladajo » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:34 am

Dude...

You really don't know what's going on in the GSW do you?
I'll give you a clue why Iran is there, and also why Iran helped broker the deal to get the Russians to commit real power: Lebanon.
And I'll even lay a trail of breadcrumbs to help you find your way...

Iran in Syria = access to Lebanon = access to Hezbollah = access to Palestine = access to frick with Israel.
Russia in Syria = access to arms contracts and military basing for the Mediterranean Sea, which right now is a NATO bathtub from their perspective. The whole Bosphorus thing really stresses our Russian friends. Also you should ask yourself who is letting these Russian AN-124s fly down to Syria, and who isn't.
Get it?

The Iranians have been in Syria for a while, and even lost QUDs troops there. They were losing, and needed an assist.
One quick trip to Moscow by our favorite QUDs commander, and viola! The Russians Go Big in Syria and look to go high order in the GSW.
The trouble with all this as I told you before, is that the Russians and Iranians do not share the same objectives.
It is not going to go well at all.
Again, once you see the fatal crack open up in Lebanon, then stand back. Its gonna get even more messy, and the end result is that Israel may well end up nuking somebody.
The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)

What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)

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Re: What was it they said about "Gog and Magog"?

Postby ladajo » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:40 am

Oh, almost forgot. I don't need to talk to your Syrian buddies. I was just on the ground in Southern Turkey a couple of weeks ago for a couple of weeks. Plenty of Syrians running around. Well to be fair, mostly not running around, mostly hanging out on the ground next to their piles of stuff watching others walk west looking for boats. Almost two million of them in Turkey right now. Plenty to talk to of all flavors, and decidedly more relevant to the discussion than your "buddies".
The development of atomic power, though it could confer unimaginable blessings on mankind, is something that is dreaded by the owners of coal mines and oil wells. (Hazlitt)

What I want to do is to look up C. . . . I call him the Forgotten Man. (Sumner)

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