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The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby MSimon » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 pm

The Romans tried what we would call socialism in their collapse phase. It didn't work. In fact it made things worse.

The Collapse of Complex Societies by Joseph Tainter - pdf. The good stuff starts in Chapter 4.


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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby choff » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Just finished reading "In The Shadow of The Sword" about the rise of the Islamic Empire(and decline of the Byzantine Empire). Another good source would be Bill Warner's dynamic battle map.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby TDPerk » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:04 am

Every institution which is supported by coercion, by law, by politics, becomes a concretion resisting redirection of societal resources towards change necessary to adapt to new, changing circumstances. The "more laws" the more resources are dedicated to then relatively unproductive ends. When the Roman Empire fell, the good nutrition seen in the bones of most of its population rose, and that the more true the further from Rome the bones were laid, all in all.
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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby paperburn1 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:46 pm

I agree, most laws end up being passed to keep the Status Quo rather than develop innovation.
Polywell seems to be one of the victims of that process.
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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby Nanos » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:52 pm

Related links of interest:

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/articles/Weiss,%20Volkmar.%20%22The%20Population%20Cycle%20Drives%20Human%20History%20_%20from%20a%20Eugenic%20Phase%20into%20a%20Dysgenic%20Phase%20and%20Eventual%20Collapse.%22%20The%20Journal%20of%20Social,%20Political%20and%20Economic%20Studies%2032%20(2007).pdf

> The Population Cycle Drives Human History - from a Eugenic Phase into
> a Dysgenic Phase and Eventual Collapse

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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby Nanos » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:59 pm


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Re: The Collapse Of Complex Societies

Postby williatw » Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:59 pm



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