MSimon wrote:I do not see as this example can enter this discussion. I can bring at least a dozen counter example of paranoid people that got the power in their own country and limited their doing to their own country.
So, what is your point?
It depend on if you practice the Method of Intentions or the Method of Capabilities. The second is now doctrine in the US Military.
And who decides who is right and who is wrong when assessing one's capabilities and intention?
Is exactly this kind of "we know all, we are always right" attitude that is placing the USA more and more in a bad spot in the eyes of moderate people of third world countries.
Do we have really to go back to remember who sustained and who was financing Saddam and his politics during the Iranian wars?
And whose financing created and gave power the Taleban Fighters in Afghanistan during the Russian invasions?
Do we really have to go and dig in the big pile of crap that has been most of the US foreign politics toward third world countries in the last 40 years?
Add to it also the crap made by the Russian and European and that's the soup from where the actual Middle East rose.
This to say that you can't simplify the situations we have today in these countries by limiting your points to what happened "after" it was decided that those local rulers become the bad guys.
The only truth we can say is that without our need for oil (and all the income these countries have due to our need) this mess would not exist.
They will probably still kill each other, but we would ignore them like we ignore Congo or Nigeria or Tibet and so on.
MSimon wrote:As to the ME problems being a leftover (at least in some measure) of WW2 you might like the picture and video here:
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/201 ... eroes.html
Short version: Mein Kamf is still a best seller in the Middle East. Funny - the Euros don't seem to notice.
That does not surprise me, nor I think it is a leftover of WWII. On the contrary, that's just a clear example of how people can be brainwashed once you live in a cleric totalitarian regime.