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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:08 pm 
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It may be possible that EMC2 could partner with Amazon.com or another web company for a short time to get donations, possibly use a percentage of sales to be given to EMC2, As in 2% of each sale to be given to EMC2.


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Simple question: why would Amazon.com do that? At all?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:33 pm 
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What is your magical idea to raise money then?

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Zixinus wrote:
Simple question: why would Amazon.com do that? At all?


Promote a better tomorrow? Provide means for alternative energy research? Reduce carbon emissions? and reduce reliance on imported fuels?

As my catch phrase for what polywell really is about;

"Hope for a new generation"


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:23 am 
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Grow Ops - big ones! Giant underground complexes powered by Polywells, with thousands of Metal Halides and High Pressure Sodium bulbs shining away above a sea of green plants :) Do you guys have any idea how much socially-responsible cash can be generated by the good herb?

With no giveaway power bills or IR thermal signatures, it would be impossible to detect. All powered by stealthily purchased Borax from the local grocery/hardware store...


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That'd be a great way to fund the rockets needed to get to mars, then you could grow without worries!
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Here is something else that might be useful:

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives ... t_439.html

If it weren't for the tobacco Nazis. Wait the Nazis were anti-tobacco.

I've broken Goodwin's law twice.

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Thanks - I had to look up Goodwin's law!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:29 pm 
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What is your magical idea to raise money then?


Government funding or funding by a corporation that has every reason to research this?

200 mil of pure R&D is not exactly something you can find easily. Private corporations are interested in making money, not R&D.

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Promote a better tomorrow? Provide means for alternative energy research? Reduce carbon emissions? and reduce reliance on imported fuels?


That's very cute, but I mean an actual reason.

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Here's the main trick - if it works, 200 million dollars would have a payoff of 10 to 20 trillion over a 10 year period. If it works.

"If the word if weren't there, my father would be a millionare" is a rhyme my dad told me was a famous when he was little. It's a really big payoff, it's just that it's exceptionally high risk.


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I'm waiting on WB-7 results. Uncertainty tends to repel investment. WB-7, one way or another, should greatly reduce uncertainty regarding the polywell.


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I sure hope so. Even if it doesn't work for fusion, the MaGrid concept is a great way to study electrons.


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Here's the main trick - if it works, 200 million dollars would have a payoff of 10 to 20 trillion over a 10 year period. If it works.


The thing is, that you won't get 200 million for big ifs. Fusion relies on plasma physics, a field notorious for its stories regarding ideas that are supposed to work on paper but failed in experiment.

Investors often scare eachother with stories like "I've spent over 50 grand for this and the next day I handed over the money, the researchers disappeared, leaving the equipment behind. I've asked an engineer to look over them and he told me that the whole thing was a setup for parlor tricks".

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After studying the field intensively for a year and a half, I have come to the conclusion that not even plasma physicists understand plasma physics.

That spells both opportunity and heartache.

For instance I have had a plasma physicist tell me that well formation was a figment. Ha.

In a way it is much like electronics. The rules are not too hard but the combinations and second and third order effects can kill you.

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For instance I have had a plasma physicist tell me that well formation was a figment. Ha.


Heh.

In 1908 the consensus was our Galaxy comprised the entire universe. And they thought they had nearly nailed down all the laws of physics.


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