Room-temperature superconductivity?

[vankirkc]

Johan,

There are only two paths here.

Path one, you take whatever steps are necessary to prove your theory, including embracing industry standard testing procedures and methods. Once proved you become a hero.

Path two, you continue to dither, complain, whine, insult, and avoid taking the steps necessary to prove your ideas. On this path you will fail to sell your theory to anyone, you will die in obscurity, and if there's any merit to your ideas they'll be attributed to someone else who has better personal skills.

Choose your path.

In either case, however, the utility of arguing here is probably at an end. 42 pages is probably enough.

[johanfprins]

I'm not sure if it made it through back to my side. I checked my inboxes and spam filters and couldn't find it. If you could re-send the eMail to mdeminico@gmail.com and I'll watch for it. There's some applications I have in mind and there's resources available.

Just sent.

[johanfprins]

No, you didn't tread on any toes. If you're curious about Johan's physics prowess, skim through the pages in this thread. I think he makes his case pretty well.

Thank you GIThruster. I am sorry for vitriol from my side. But I am sure that after you have read the science and the history involved, you might be more willing to forgive me. Thank you for sticking it out with me. In this respect I also want to thank all the other people who responded in a way that was helpful to me. I am not going to go through all the pages in order to name them all, but names like TallDave, BenTc, and MSimon jumps into my mind.

[johanfprins]

Johan,

There are only two paths here.

Path one, you take whatever steps are necessary to prove your theory, including embracing industry standard testing procedures and methods. Once proved you become a hero.

This is exactly what I have been trying to do all along. But I cannot force other people to do what they do not want to do. Maybe you will understand when I tell you the following story:

In 1999 I discovered that I can make diamond n-type conducting by oxygen ion implantaion. The other schools on the electronic properties of diamond in the world ridiculed me since this result negates their models.

In 2004, I received a paper to referee for Diamond and Related Materials. Chinese reseachers in Beijing had better equipment than I have had and reproduced my results brillliantly. I recommended publication and the other referee from the physics group that ridiculed me rejected the paper outright. Since then the Chinese have been blocked from getting their excellent results published in any acceptable "peer-reviewed" journal. This is how physics is being censored at present and why one should seriously question the integrity of the leading physicists. If this were not the ruling mentality I would not have had to "whine".

[chrismb]

In 2004, I received a paper to referee for Diamond and Related Materials. Chinese reseachers in Beijing had better equipment than I have had and reproduced my results brillliantly. I recommended publication and the other referee from the physics group that ridiculed me rejected the paper outright. Since then the Chinese have been blocked from getting their excellent results published in any acceptable "peer-reviewed" journal. This is how physics is being censored at present and why one should seriously question the integrity of the leading physicists. If this were not the ruling mentality I would not have had to "whine".

This disclosure now makes your whole situation diamond clear!

Of all the places for a researcher to 're-discover' your work and not be able to progress it to commercialisation - China defintely isn't it!!!

If a China-University based research group cannot exploit their findings, then you are well and truly shafted! Blow the journals of the Western World, why should China care about them any more? Western science and industry need to follow China now, that is where it is happening.

So the question is not why you cannot find an exploitation route; the question is why can't they?

You have just laid out the only rational path to recommend to you, now; you need to work with this group and share in the endeavour to turn your mutual findings into a working reality.

But if they are not prepared to work with you, or if you discourage them from doing so by showing similar disdain to them as you have to others with what appears to be sub-optimal inter-personal skills, then you have been scooped and you should stick to selling books.

As just mentioned, if 50-odd pages of forum discussion has failed to progress your view on the situation any further, then little can. It is on you to work with this group now, if you ever want to see a manifest device operating with your discovery. But why can they not make this happen in China?...

[chrismb]

In 1999 I discovered that I can make diamond n-type conducting by oxygen ion implantaion.

... and this is why your patent failed.

[GIThruster]

Not following, Chris.

Johan, what would be the top schools here in the US that do diamond and related materials science? I'm just wondering where else you might look for an advocate. If you find someone in a lab that already has the equipment needed to do a validation study, it might not be outside the realm of possibility they'd sign an NDA to do a replication, so long as they have the right to publish in the future.

Have you looked around for advocates whom you might make such an agreement with?

[KitemanSA]

... and this is why your patent failed.

Would you care to politely expound upon that for a bit?

[chrismb]

... and this is why your patent failed.

Would you care to politely expound upon that for a bit?

Because it is a discovery. he even uses that word himself.

He could patent a particular means to manufacture it, but it sounds like it could be made by any implantation process already known, so if he devised a new way to do it, then people would just make it by known means.

He could patent a particular device that takes specific advantage of the properties of this material, but unless it was a wholly new device in itself that is not otherwise made possible by this material, then his would only be an improvement on the art, e.g. 'an improved integrated circuit using an n-doped diamond substrate'. 'Improvement' patents can get a bit tricky, but that route may be/have still been possible (well, not know for that particular application because he's discussed it already in public).

[EDIT: This is not correct, at least in the general case. Please see my post next page...]

[mdeminico]

If a China-University based research group cannot exploit their findings, then you are well and truly shafted! Blow the journals of the Western World, why should China care about them any more? Western science and industry need to follow China now, that is where it is happening.

Um, I think you're grossly overestimating the abilities of the nation of China.

Let's just say the vast majority of China's "advancements", and where it is supposedly happening is due to, um the "five finger discount" they get from other nations and corporations.

There is a reason out of 1.3 BILLION Chinese people, there hasn't been one single Thomas Edison come out of that country.

[GIThruster]

Arguments concerning Chinese ingenuity are misplaced.

What we need to see are validation studies done really, anywhere.

It's a flat Earth. I can complain about how China is not up to Western standards because of the way their government has oppressed their people--I'm as happy as I can be that I'm not faced with a life alone because of social engineering that thought it was okay for so many millions of guys to be alone.

The Chinese communists are all psychotic jackasses!

Lets put that aside.

Where can we look to get validation of Johan's supposed physics? The US is certainly the place with the money and the talent, so what schools have the resources to attend the facts?

[chrismb]

I can assure you that to continue to underestimate the Chinese industrial skills shall be the Western world's undoing in the early part of the 21st century.

I have worked with the output of a factory that started up in China around 6 years ago. The quality, control and technical understanding was very shakey back then. But they learn, boy do those guys learn! They make me think of the US in the 60's - a real 'have a go' spirit, not afraid of making their fair share of mistakes to get ahead, and so willing to suck up the tech. Now the product out of this factory shows technical understanding and discipline that should make Western manufacturers [what there is left of them] fearful, and those that are not simply don't understand the enormity of that threat.

We can sell our 'technical expertise' to the Chinese at the moment to help them with their processes and manufacturing... but I am sure that they won't be needing that for very long.... Being ahead technically without actually developing and working on evolving manufacturing techniques is a short-term, unsustainable scenario.

[TallDave]

In 2004, I received a paper to referee for Diamond and Related Materials. Chinese reseachers in Beijing had better equipment than I have had and reproduced my results brillliantly. I recommended publication and the other referee from the physics group that ridiculed me rejected the paper outright. Since then the Chinese have been blocked from getting their excellent results published in any acceptable "peer-reviewed" journal. This is how physics is being censored at present and why one should seriously question the integrity of the leading physicists. If this were not the ruling mentality I would not have had to "whine".

Well, after ClimateGate, one certainly can't argue this sort of thing doesn't happen.

I suspect the problem isn't much worse today than it has been in the past, but because we generate so much knowledge and live so long now the traditional process by which science advanced (funerals) is increasingly insufficient to carry the load, and a logjam may be developing.

[KitemanSA]

... and this is why your patent failed.

Would you care to politely expound upon that for a bit?

Because it is a discovery. he even uses that word himself.

He could patent a particular means to manufacture it, but it sounds like it could be made by any implantation process already known, so if he devised a new way to do it, then people would just make it by known means.

Aren't new materials patentable? Teflon, Freon, nylon, all these patented materials involved a "discovery" how to make them. But the MATERIAL is what is patented, no?

[Randy]

Here's a good physics joke:

Researchers in Fairbanks Alaska announced last week that they have discovered a superconductor which will operate at room temperature.

~Randy