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Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:35 pm
by KitemanSA
seedload wrote: No, even to Rossi. Start with an open mind, digest the evidence, and then draw conclusions. As the BS piles up, consider abandoning ship.
I guess that is the distinction. I "consider" it all the time but feel no abiding NEED to "decide" on it. Or more accurately, I have decided not to believe it to the tune of not sending him any of my money. But that is caution, not belief.

I kind of feel like I am on a jury and every day my fellow jury members are hounding me to decide one way or the other... while the trial is still going on. I am somewhat shamed of my fellow jurors for their inappropriate actions.

Sorry, off topic and I will not respond beyond rudeness to any further discussion on this diversion.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:02 pm
by ladajo
while the trial is still going on
Sorry, but I've got to ask when the trial is going to be over?

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:55 pm
by Skipjack
Ok, so they are a bit tooo sparse with technical details for my taste. They only talk about deuterium and not D+T. So would it be correct to assume that they are going to burn D2 only? If so, that would probably reduce some of the problems with DT reactors. They would still produce a lot of neutrons that will have some implications on the burn chamber and potentially also the rest of the reactor.
Lots of other open questions. Still, it does look interesting and I wish them the best of luck.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:46 am
by Skipjack
There is a patent for this in his name:
http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/d ... Rec=153336

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:59 pm
by seedload
Skipjack wrote:There is a patent for this in his name:
http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/d ... Rec=153336
I was curious if there would be any indication of why the thing was a spiral. I didn't see anything that indicated that a spiral was necessary rather than just a long tapered tube. Yet, they don't seem to be making claims for the 'passageway' in any other configuration than a spiral which I found odd.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:59 pm
by Skipjack
I think their claim is that the spiral shape somehow adds a sort of rotation, or twist to the plasmoid...

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:41 am
by paperburn1
I guess I just do not get it, the design seem to add unusual complexity and goes against what I would think be best practices for working with plasma.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:42 pm
by DeltaV
When the FRC is tilted, the toroidal electron flow not only twists the field lines but convects the entire tilted FRC topology toroidally.
Maybe there is some advantage in this twisting/convection (shades of LPP's DPF).

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:37 pm
by Skipjack
paperburn1 wrote:I guess I just do not get it, the design seem to add unusual complexity and goes against what I would think be best practices for working with plasma.
I am not disagreeing with you in that it feels "wrong", but I dont know enough about this to effectively disprove their claims.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:27 pm
by paperburn1
Skipjack wrote:
paperburn1 wrote:I guess I just do not get it, the design seem to add unusual complexity and goes against what I would think be best practices for working with plasma.
I am not disagreeing with you in that it feels "wrong", but I dont know enough about this to effectively disprove their claims.
I am in the same boat.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:30 pm
by rcain
Skipjack wrote:There is a patent for this in his name:
http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/d ... Rec=153336
aha! well found skipjack. that is what i was searching for (unsuccessfully). will give it a read thru.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:47 am
by crowberry
Sorlox has a 6 min 17 s video on their homepage showing a simulation of their device, but without a description of how it works.
http://www.sorlox.com/company.html
The spiral design is to get a compact size of the device. The same video has been uploaded on Youtube on the 20th of August:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxCnnkQM5Q

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:39 pm
by ScottL
Or more accurately, I have decided not to believe it to the tune of not sending him any of my money. But that is caution, not belief.
You should work on your wording...

As for this topic I'm with the others, feels wrong, but can't say for sure.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:39 pm
by KitemanSA
ScottL wrote:As for this topic I'm with the others, feels wrong, but can't say for sure.
Then you are NOT with the others, they DO say for sure. You are with me.

Re: Sorlox - FRC nautilus compressor

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:38 pm
by ScottL
Really Kite? Because if you scroll up like 4 posts you'll see that both Skip and Paper both state they don't feel it is right. I'm with them on this and if you agree on that part, great.