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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:27 pm
by KitemanSA
BenTC wrote:Good luck ladajo, but personally I would let it go.
First half, I agree; second, not so much.

If they really mean no, you will find out soon enough. No biggie.

If they said no due to time pressure, etc., you may find yourself pleasently surprised.

Expect another "no", but hope springs eternal!

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:22 pm
by Giorgio
Should you need any financial help to get the FOIA appeal trough, my offer stands.

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:00 am
by KitemanSA
Giorgio wrote:Should you need any financial help to get the FOIA appeal trough, my offer stands.
And mine.

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:29 am
by ladajo
Much appreciated.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:07 pm
by ladajo
I got results on another FOIA line I was working, it earned me two pages of nothing. The rest was blocked under 2 and 4. The two pages I got were completion of contract documentation.

Appeals still remain live.

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 4:55 am
by bennmann
Thank you very much for the update.

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:24 am
by ladajo
should've put the below here...vice the other thread...

"Another of my FOIA paths ran itself to ground.
Denied on Proprietary (again).

I am now on the appeal path only. As previously stated, the plus side is that the appeal process gets handled by big navy in DC. And I get to cite previous releases, as well as EMC2 must demonstrate to big navy JAG why the information is proprietary, vice just saying it is.
In the appeal, specific argument is made for release of non-proprietary info. ie. leave out design specifics/nuances not previously released, just tell us how it is working...

We shall see."

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:12 am
by Giorgio
Thanks for the update.

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:54 am
by Giorgio
Any news from the Appeal process?

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:41 pm
by ladajo
I have been a little busy of late. I just moved from VA to RI. I will get back on that once things settle out a little.
Sorry, but on the up side, recovery.gov posts today...

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:57 am
by Antice
Here is the latestreport from recovery.org:

Quarterly Activities/Project Description: on budget, on schedule for new lab test facility. Primary focus has been construction, procurement and relocation of personnel and chamber.

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:33 am
by Roger
Polywell is proprietary because the Navy paid for it, by strict legal definitions. Plus the Navy Can make the additional case of irreprable harm. Bought and paid for is the trump card. Not to throw water on your efforts, but the Navy has all the cards.

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:42 pm
by chrismb
Roger wrote:Polywell is proprietary because the Navy paid for it, by strict legal definitions. Plus the Navy Can make the additional case of irreprable harm. Bought and paid for is the trump card. Not to throw water on your efforts, but the Navy has all the cards.
It doesn't appear that you are actually keeping up with the posts: The Navy were prepared to let the information be released. It was EMC2 who [went back on Bussard's word and] said it was their proprietary material and requested a blanket veto.

I don't like double-talkers. If EMC2 were to say 'actually, we're no longer going to stick with Bussard's vision of a fully shared and collaborative effort' then I would regard the whole matter differently.

It just seems borderline fraud to be asking for donations on your home page into a stand-alone charity, donations which are then routed through to this organisation that then says 'cheese off' to tax payers who have asked for info that the Navy is prepared to release.

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:06 pm
by KitemanSA
Antice wrote:Here is the latestreport from recovery.org:

Quarterly Activities/Project Description: on budget, on schedule for new lab test facility. Primary focus has been construction, procurement and relocation of personnel and chamber.
When I clicked thru it was still LAST quarter's report. This quarter (thru June) should be up some time on Monday, I would guess (1st on the weekend and all). Of course, maybe they pulled another switch and it has to be found again. Anyone?

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:34 pm
by Antice
KitemanSA wrote:
Antice wrote:Here is the latestreport from recovery.org:

Quarterly Activities/Project Description: on budget, on schedule for new lab test facility. Primary focus has been construction, procurement and relocation of personnel and chamber.
When I clicked thru it was still LAST quarter's report. This quarter (thru June) should be up some time on Monday, I would guess (1st on the weekend and all). Of course, maybe they pulled another switch and it has to be found again. Anyone?
Ah that explains why the first quarter was only available. there is that mismatch with the numbers going on as well. at least i am hoping my link is camping the right spot. :?