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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:40 pm
by kurt9
Skipjack wrote:Yes, but the government also has to provide means for those to seek justice that feel betrayed.
Yes, but when the redress, in the form of additional taxes and/or regulation, adversely affects those of us who had nothing to do with the original injustice in the firs place, then additional injustice is created. This is not acceptable.

Economic "efficiency" is really a code word for economic freedom, which is at least as important as any of the other freedoms that we take for granted.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:24 pm
by KitemanSA
WARNING :: WARNING :: WARNING ::

This thread is experiencing topic drift!

The drift has taken the issue in a direction inappropriate for the NEWS forum.

Please continue this off topic discussion on a new thread in the GENERAL forum.

Thank You! That is all.

WARNING :: WARNING :: WARNING ::
:lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:40 pm
by kurt9
Back to the polywell, anyone know what the next step is for the EMC2 people?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:43 pm
by MSimon
kurt9 wrote:Back to the polywell, anyone know what the next step is for the EMC2 people?
I don't know any more than you do.

Simon

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:46 pm
by KitemanSA
It seems the Dr. B would have had something of a plan of action and milestones (POA&M) that he presented to the Navy to get his ~$1M funding last year. Does anyone have a copy of that POA&M? Wouldn't it be public info and available under the FOIA?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:49 pm
by MSimon
KitemanSA wrote:It seems the Dr. B would have had something of a plan of action and milestones (POA&M) that he presented to the Navy to get his ~$1M funding last year. Does anyone have a copy of that POA&M? Wouldn't it be public info and available under the FOIA?
You might have to go the FOIA route. And that presumes you can reference the document.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:55 pm
by KitemanSA
Do we know precisely who gave him the $ last year?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:37 pm
by MSimon
KitemanSA wrote:Do we know precisely who gave him the $ last year?
The US Navy. It should be possible to work backwards from the "keep alive" contracts.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:22 pm
by JohnP
Back to the polywell, anyone know what the next step is for the EMC2 people?
From the Alan Boyle article:
Despite the skepticism, Nebel and his colleagues have already drawn up a plan for the next step: an 18-month program to build and test a larger fusor prototype. "We're shopping that around inside the DOD [Department of Defense], and we'll see what happens," he said.
It would seem that at least a part of the effort early this year will be spent with phonecalls and handshakes. If we're lucky, we might get wind of a green-light for the Next Big Step, whatever that will be.

Meanwhile, the Navy's been kind enough to keep their lights on and hands busy.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:57 am
by KitemanSA
JohnP wrote:From the Alan Boyle article:
Despite the skepticism, Nebel and his colleagues have already drawn up a plan for the next step: an 18-month program to build and test a larger fusor prototype. "We're shopping that around inside the DOD [Department of Defense], and we'll see what happens," he said.
It would seem that at least a part of the effort early this year will be spent with phonecalls and handshakes. If we're lucky, we might get wind of a green-light for the Next Big Step, whatever that will be.
Meanwhile, the Navy's been kind enough to keep their lights on and hands busy.
If the "plan" that is mentioned were made public, we might be able to push it ahead even faster. Does anyone have any pull with EMC2 or Dr. Nebel to bring the "plan" into the light?