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				Faster than Light ?
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:06 pm
				by ravingdave
				Not sure what to make of this.  Maybe Dr. Nebel can shed some light 

 on this ? 
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Health ... than_light
David
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:35 pm
				by kmkramer
				Here's a pre-print of what he is apparently talking about : 
http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.0399 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:31 pm
				by Art Carlson
				Ho hum.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:54 pm
				by chrismb
				This is Houshang Ardavan's idea dating back a few decades, as being driven by his son Arzhang Ardavan, rehashed for a new decade. 
Just like Polywell, it's already had a good run at investment over many years but hasn't delivered on the fine theory. it's a straight-forward idea, the device has been built but.... doesn't do much.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:08 pm
				by kunkmiester
				They know light travels faster in Bose-Einstein condensates.  It's of rather limited use though.  I figured it was a good place to do some handwavium for a sci-fi series though.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:09 pm
				by chrismb
				kunkmiester wrote:They know light travels faster in Bose-Einstein condensates.  It's of rather limited use though.  I figured it was a good place to do some handwavium for a sci-fi series though.
I thought it was slower. A couple of inches per second in a rubidium BE condensate 'crystal', I thought I'd read somewhere....
For the local speed of light to be faster than c, the medium would have to be less dense than vacuum.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:35 pm
				by Art Carlson
				chrismb wrote:For the local speed of light to be faster than c, the medium would have to be less dense than vacuum.
The (phase) velocity of electromagnetic waves in a plasma is greater than c. (How's that for getting back on topic?)
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:01 pm
				by chrismb
				hmmp... I thought it was group velocity that can go quicker, in such media. I will consider myself corrected.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:22 pm
				by kunkmiester
				I stand corrected.  I thought it was faster.  Interesting.