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				Spider silk conducts heat as well as metals, study finds
				Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:59 pm
				by DeltaV
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:46 am
				by hanelyp
				Diamond is a pretty good thermal conductor and electrical insulator.  But rather expensive for many jobs.  I hear synthetic sapphire is used for the job mounting LED dies.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:15 pm
				by DeltaV
				If a flexible form of diamond can be produced, great.  
Brittle glass can be melted, extruded into flexible fibers and woven into cloth.  
Maybe a 1-D CVD process can be found to make flexible diamond fibers.  That would make a very cool fabric.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:36 pm
				by DeltaV
				The troubles with asbestos come to mind, however...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:33 pm
				by Tom Ligon
				I've downloaded a couple of papers on the method used to measure this phenomenon, and may try to do it myself.  This sounds fascinating.
Now, let's see, where can I find a garden spider?  We used to have one spinning webs on the house every spring.  Ours would take the web in every evening and spin a new one in the morning, so it probably does little harm to harvest a web in the evening.
For those interested in the nitty-gritty of the technique, I found a paper on-line under the file name adma_201104668_sm_suppl.pdf.  The method is intended for thin conductive wires and involves stretching a wire between two good heat sinks.  The wire is self-heated by a DC current, and temperature change is evaluated by the resistance change.  To test spider silk, they sputter-coat on about 10 nm of gold (the apparatus for this is common in electron microscope labs, and the paper reports using SEM on samples of spider silk).  Sputter-coating can be rigged by any fusion experimenter with a modest vacuum system.  The test is done in a vacuum, somewhat better than my present capability, but I was hoping to go turbo anyway.  They aim for < 1 millitorr (below the range where thermocouple gages work and so below significant convective heat loss).
The electronic apparatus involved seems to be a fast-switched current source and a digital oscilloscope.  Type T thermocouples (suitable for vacuum and good at near-ambient) are used for temperature measurements of the heat sinks.
I'm wondering if my thermal imager can see something this thin.  Mine is not intended for close focussing, but I think there are models that work on microscopes.  If so, this test might also be done by viewing thermal gradients directly.  I'm also interested in using a fine thermocouple as a heat flow gage, allowing direct measurement of heat flow down a filament.