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latest mention of polywell/Bussard fusion

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:43 am
by zbarlici
Click Here

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/950/



These links are older

http://www.kschroeder.com/1163900280/index_html

http://www.kschroeder.com/1182524306/index_html


... fudge! a few days ago i came across a 200 + page recent IEC fusion study/report done by some physicist(from MIT i think)... and he was stating that the IEC fusors can be improved greatly even to generate net power... he covered every aspect associated with IEC fusion from theory to design and was sayin how they need to be changed to better the chances of fusion etc.... Basically he was saying that thers is a lot to learn and a lot that has not been tried. I cannot find the link to that paper anymore... i intended to submit it here but i forgot ... :P

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:27 am
by MSimon
Thanks for starting this topic. I had intended to, but felt I was monopolizing the bandwidth.

I will be posting links I find as well.

First link:

Great IEC Poster. Suitable for framing. LOL

http://ssl.mit.edu/research/Posters/FPP ... r_2006.pdf

MIT Lab effort:

http://ssl.mit.edu/research/fusion.html

Might this be the one you lost?

Improving Particle Confinement in Inertial Electrostatic Fusion for Spacecraft Power and Propulsion

http://ssl.mit.edu/publications/theses/ ... chCarl.pdf

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:42 pm
by zbarlici
click on the MIT link you provided, simon. Once in the new URL location click on "Publications", and next click the "thesis.mit.edu" hyperlink.

The next window that comes up, i was expecting to see their 200 page thesis on IEC and why it has lots of promise, but the only thing you get is the text "It works!"... what could that mean

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:04 pm
by MSimon
zbarlici wrote:click on the MIT link you provided, simon. Once in the new URL location click on "Publications", and next click the "thesis.mit.edu" hyperlink.

The next window that comes up, i was expecting to see their 200 page thesis on IEC and why it has lots of promise, but the only thing you get is the text "It works!"... what could that mean
They have not finished updating their html?

BTW was the pdf the one you were looking for?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:18 pm
by zbarlici
yes that was the thesis i was referring to. Thank you for finding it. This is the first "positive" IEC thesis done in a long time... and it was put together by a professional individual at an accredited institute!

This is very, very good news, and ought to encourage everybody to not be so skeptical about IEC fusion succeeding.

The link to that paper should be posted under theory/design as well.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 pm
by MSimon
zbarlici wrote:yes that was the thesis i was referring to. Thank you for finding it. This is the first "positive" IEC thesis done in a long time... and it was put together by a professional individual at an accredited institute!

This is very, very good news, and ought to encourage everybody to not be so skeptical about IEC fusion succeeding.

The link to that paper should be posted under theory/design as well.
It is now in theory.

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:11 am
by zbarlici
The next window that comes up, i was expecting to see the 200 page thesis on IEC, why it has lots of promise, but the only thing you get is the text "It works!"... what could that mean


... i was hoping that "it works" was their way of telling us that they had a working IEC reactor, and the reason theyre not "properly" confirming their results is because the review panel have not yet submitted their findings... QUIK! Get the review panel in there before your coil shorts out! :D

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:17 pm
by zbarlici
MSimon wrote:
zbarlici wrote:click on the MIT link you provided, simon. Once in the new URL location click on "Publications", and next click the "thesis.mit.edu" hyperlink.

The next window that comes up, i was expecting to see their 200 page thesis on IEC and why it has lots of promise, but the only thing you get is the text "It works!"... what could that mean
They have not finished updating their html?

It`s been months now since they changed that specific hyperlink so it shows the text "it works!"(in reference to the iec fusion device) instead of the thesis...

Now it still shows "It works!"


so do you think that they are still updating their html, msimon?

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:43 pm
by MSimon
I have totally lost the gist of the thread.

http://ssl.mit.edu/publications/theses/ ... Thomas.pdf

http://ssl.mit.edu/publications/theses/ ... chCarl.pdf

http://ssl.mit.edu/research/Posters/FPP ... r_2006.pdf

I just tried all the above links. They work for me.

If not I can send you the stuff by e-mail.

msimon6808
at
yahoo
dot
com

Simon

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:33 am
by zbarlici
from the second post of this thread the hyperlink

http://ssl.mit.edu/research/fusion.html

once at the"Space Systems Laboratory" webpage, click on

Publications(to the right of the polywell device picture)

...next click on the thesis.mit.edu hyperlink


it should take you to this page

http://thesis.mit.edu/


...and it`s been like that for months, just showing the text "it works!"

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:10 pm
by MSimon
OK. I get it.

There used to be a page full of stuff. IIRC.

Maybe they got into some kind of political fight. Any way the .pdf links above work and give you access to the IEC Fusion papers.

The rest are mostly rocket stuff, astronautics, and astronomy.

You might want to send an e-mail to MIT and ask what gives.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:47 pm
by Tom Ligon
(Also posted at NASASpaceFlight.com)

Last night I listened to the Feb 12 broadcast of "The Space Show". The guest, Bruce Pittman, was talking about alternative fusion projects, p-B11 fusion, etc. Dr. Bussard came up pretty quickly, as did some article that appeared recently in _Analog_.

I wish I'd been able to listen when it was on live, as I would probably have called in. The weather got me and I was not home in time.

http://www.thespaceshow.com/detail.asp?q=891

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:18 pm
by Roger
Tom Ligon wrote: as did some article that appeared recently in _Analog_.
Is that So............

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:24 am
by dch24
zbarlici wrote:http://thesis.mit.edu/

...and it`s been like that for months, just showing the text "it works!"
The text "It works!" is the default home page for the Apache web server. (You may have seen some of the other default pages, like this one) In other words, somebody wiped the machine clean. Any page you saw before has now been replaced by a "under construction" page.