Tom Ligon wrote:Diogenes wrote:
So for this event in relation to the "Russians hacked the election" meme, i'll put you down as a "no."
If you go back to the origin of
this, I was not talking about Russians hacking the election, but Trump kissing up to Putin. I was talking about Trump damning himself with his own words, which his clueless base lapped up and thought was just wonderful. So you may not put that down as
a "no", as it was not on the subject of Russian hacking at all.
My entry into
this discussion was the result of your "
I certainly hope we can get thru then next election without any more shenanigans from Moscow." comment.
I asked
What shenanigans did Moscow pull in the election?
I narrowed the focus of my inquiry to
this particular point. It may not have been the point of your larger discussion, but it was the particular point on which I wished to hear your evidence to support it.
You see, I considered it to be
a deliberate piece of propaganda that needed to be exposed as
a piece of deliberate propaganda, and I had only recently read that the "Russians hacked the election!" meme had been pretty much destroyed by the write up in "the Nation" and other sources, and so I was surprised to see anyone still trying to spread
this bit of propaganda.
Tom Ligon wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Every time I hear people going on about the "Russians Hacking the election!" all I can think of is "Witch!"
So, you have blinders on.
The very opposite, as indicated by my information about the incorrect allegations of the Russians hacking the DNC. I am more reliably informed about what is going on with
this issue than are most Americans.
Tom Ligon wrote:
You can imagine that the media have an agenda but not that our foes do.
I have no doubt that our foes (and i'm intrigued by your portraying Russia as
a current "foe") have agenda's, but from what I can tell, Russia's agenda would be far better served with
a Hitlery Presidency than
a Trump Presidency. Why would they act contrary to their own interests?
Tom Ligon wrote:
You're not even curious enough to investigate. Breitbart says "Witch Hunt" and you echo the chant.
If there has been some evidence that would warrant an investigation, I might be interested in seeing one, but the thing smelled like
a load of political propaganda from the beginning, I have absolutely no illusions about how the media conduct themselves and which side they are on, and the means of accomplishing
a "hack" of the election were never presented in any manner that was comprehensible to me.
Also, you are making another accusation with your "Breitbart" reference. I do not read Breitbart, yet somehow you think it has
a bearing on what I think? Apparently "Breitbart" has become the new bogey man in some circles, and I'm really not sure why. I didn't realize any significant number of people were even paying attention to it.
Tom Ligon wrote:
You can't even "think of" anything else. That's pretty limited thinking for a conspiracy theorist.
I'm not sure what "conspiracy theory" you are trying to assert here, but the social circles of Urbanites in Media is pretty much known to anyone who follows politics, as is their affinity for Democrat Party officials, and Government power brokers.
That the "glitterati" all hang out with each other and consider themselves to be the creme de la creme of American society is also not
a secret. That they all tend to think alike is more
a consequence of social pressure and "group think" than any sort of "conspiracy."
Tom Ligon wrote:
What I still want to know is just exactly when is our Fearless Leader going to get moving and formulate some things that do good for the nation.
Not being Hillary is so far the best thing he has accomplished for the good of the nation.
Tom Ligon wrote:
For the last few days he's not been too bad. The people he likes to call The Swamp have, after years of bungling, managed to put together a somewhat rational response to natural disasters, and he's signing off on what they ask for. And apparently he's enjoying it.
I see Texans taking care of their own. I'm sure the feds are doing stuff too, but i'm not seeing where they ought to get
a lot of credit for finally getting some of their disaster response stuff right. Perhaps Trump inspired them to do better.
Tom Ligon wrote:
I didn't want Clinton because she's a total incompetent and every job she's had has been trash. But seriously, what has Trump done except tweet that everything is a disaster?
This guy made a list.
What has Donald Trump done since he has been in office!!!
1.Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch
2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.
3.He took us out of TPP
4.Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
5.Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index125.6
6.Mortgage applications for new homes rise to
a 7 year high.
7.Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.
8.Bids for border wall are well underway.
9.Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.
10.Keystone pipeline approved.
11.NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
12.Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.
13.Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.
14.More than 600,000. Jobs created
15. Median household income at
a 7 year high.
16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever In its history.
17. China agreed to American import of beef.
18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.
19. Rollback of
A Regulation to boost coal mining.
20. MOAB for ISIS
21. Travel ban reinstated.
22. Executive order for religious freedom.
23. Jump started NASA
24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget.
25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.
27. Signed legislative 41 bills to date.
28. Created
a commission on child trafficking
29. Created
a commission on voter fraud
30. Created
a commission for opioids addiction.
31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.
32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007.
33. Historic Black College University initiative
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
35. Created an office or illegal immigrant crime victims.
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.
39. End of DAPA program.
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.
41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.
42. Encouraged country to once again ‘Buy American and hire American .
43. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first
44.Cutting regulations 2 for every one created.
45. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.
46 $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota...
47. Denied FBI
a new building.
48. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.
49. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.
50. Dept of treasury reports
a $182 billion surplus for April 2017(2nd largest in history.)
51. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.
52. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.
53. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth.
54. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people’s lives than any President in the history of America.
55. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.
56. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated March 15 2017, to trim the fat. restructure and improve efficacy of their branch. (Observe the pushback, the leaks, & the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)
57. No Fed Funds to Sanctuary Cities.
58. Lastly, Refused his Presidential Pay Check, donated it to Veterans issues.
‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’
— Lord Melbourne —