US #12 in Entrpreneurship

[kurt9]

He is a bit of a one-note Johnny on the subject of drug prohibition. Appropriate subjects for appropriate threads.

This is why:

"[Nixon] emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks" Haldeman, his Chief of Staff wrote, "The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."

Clever boys. You would think the anti-slavery Party would be against that sort of thing. You would be wrong. They LOVE it. Too bad for them.

You know, I actually agree with you on legalization. Absolutely. 100%.

Its just that you manage to twist nearly every single conversation you participate in in this forum to the subject of drug legalization whether it is relevant or not, and that is what gets tedious for some of us here.

Any I saw your links to Nixon and Haldamen's comments about blacks, and agree that they are quite humorous. I've heard some of the Nixon tapes on these subjects (they are on the 'Net now) and found the comments there quite entertaining. Let's just say that Nixon and his administration were definitely not PC!

[MSimon]

He is a bit of a one-note Johnny on the subject of drug prohibition. Appropriate subjects for appropriate threads.

This is why:

"[Nixon] emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks" Haldeman, his Chief of Staff wrote, "The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."

Clever boys. You would think the anti-slavery Party would be against that sort of thing. You would be wrong. They LOVE it. Too bad for them.

You know, I actually agree with you on legalization. Absolutely. 100%.

Its just that you manage to twist nearly every single conversation you participate in in this forum to the subject of drug legalization whether it is relevant or not, and that is what gets tedious for some of us here.

Any I saw your links to Nixon and Haldamen's comments about blacks, and agree that they are quite humorous. I've heard some of the Nixon tapes on these subjects (they are on the 'Net now) and found the comments there quite entertaining. Let's just say that Nixon and his administration were definitely not PC!

Of course it is tedious. But so is persecuting/jailing people because of their political views on the pretense that you are protecting them from some kind of harm. And that is despite the fact that I consider leftists totally wrong in their economic views.

John Ehrlichman, makes it abundantly clear what they were up to. A kinder gentler fascism:

"Look, we understood we couldn't make it illegal to be young or poor or black in the United States, but we could criminalize their common pleasure. We understood that drugs were not the health problem we were making them out to be, but it was such a perfect issue...that we couldn't resist it." - John Ehrlichman, White House counsel to President Nixon on the rationale of the War on Drugs.

It is a moral abomination. Evil to the core. And yet we have "moralists" supporting the evil. And worse: it is giving us a police state. Something also noted in Prohibition 1. But we have historical amnesia. Until it ends I will not be quiet.

The only difference between America and the Nazis is that we are not killing people out right. Just destroying families and taking 10, 20, 30 years of their lives. Slow death camps. I object. Strenuously.

[GIThruster]

It is a moral abomination. Evil to the core. And yet we have "moralists" supporting the evil.

Someone here might be able to believe what you're saying, if it weren't that so many have made the arguments and show from the fats of history, that this is not true. Dio for example, has repeatedly made the argument from history of what drugs do to whole cultures, and we have already seen the downward spiral as it develops in places like CO, where almost overnight, accidents, many of them fatal; have skyrocketed, and parallel the use of Cannabis.

And there is the simple observation that the pro-drug champion here is without work and acting as a sponge now for more than a decade. You're about the best we can hope for, and yet you're just a parasite on society, all because of how twisted your life is as result of the drugs. Just how much evidence is enough evidence, before the nonsense ends with you? Go get a job. Spend the next decade paying back society for the way you've suckled off her tits. Do something positive with your life and stop the incessant whining. Stop making excuses for the hollow, empty shell you call a life. Stop living on the net and justifying your laziness, by pretending you're some great crusader, here convincing people you know the right way to live. You're a hypocrite and nothing you say will be convincing to anyone who knows your situation. Your life is in fact, the very best sort of argument one could have for drug prohibition, and you can't change this with some cleverness in a post.

Go get a job. Pay your taxes. Then tell us how you know we're all wrong to say drugs ruin people's lives.

[MSimon]

It is a moral abomination. Evil to the core. And yet we have "moralists" supporting the evil.

Someone here might be able to believe what you're saying, if it weren't that so many have made the arguments and show from the fats of history, that this is not true. Dio for example, has repeatedly made the argument from history of what drugs do to whole cultures, and we have already seen the downward spiral as it develops in places like CO, where almost overnight, accidents, many of them fatal; have skyrocketed, and parallel the use of Cannabis.

And there is the simple observation that the pro-drug champion here is without work and acting as a sponge now for more than a decade. You're about the best we can hope for, and yet you're just a parasite on society, all because of how twisted your life is as result of the drugs. Just how much evidence is enough evidence, before the nonsense ends with you? Go get a job. Spend the next decade paying back society for the way you've suckled off her tits. Do something positive with your life and stop the incessant whining. Stop making excuses for the hollow, empty shell you call a life. Stop living on the net and justifying your laziness, by pretending you're some great crusader, here convincing people you know the right way to live. You're a hypocrite and nothing you say will be convincing to anyone who knows your situation. Your life is in fact, the very best sort of argument one could have for drug prohibition, and you can't change this with some cleverness in a post.

Go get a job. Pay your taxes. Then tell us how you know we're all wrong to say drugs ruin people's lives.

Alcohol ruins people's lives. Far more people than drugs do. At least be consistent and call for a return of Alcohol Prohibition. Otherwise I can not take your argument seriously.

And then of course you have to ask - is a police state more ruinous (police acting like Nazis with 3 AM raids for small quantities) than the drugs? Well you are finding out. The DEA has considered - and for the time being rejected - going after guns. You see they don't just stop at one "improvement". You know - "first they came for..."

As much as you dislike drug users - even you will eventually be sorry. Because police states do not stop with the original targets.

[MSimon]

So I take it you are OK with this:

"Look, we understood we couldn't make it illegal to be young or poor or black in the United States, but we could criminalize their common pleasure. We understood that drugs were not the health problem we were making them out to be, but it was such a perfect issue...that we couldn't resist it." - John Ehrlichman, White House counsel to President Nixon on the rationale of the War on Drugs.

"[Nixon] emphasized that you have to face the fact that the whole problem is really the blacks" Haldeman, his Chief of Staff wrote, "The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."

I'm betting the American people generally are not. And I'm winning and you are losing. And on top of that I'm strengthening the left. All because the right is going down with the Prohibition ship. Just as they did in 1932.

Well you can't say I haven't been warning you.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/ ... _plan.html

As you can see I was ahead of my time. Which means you have been amply warned.

Have a nice day.

[GIThruster]

As much as you dislike drug users - even you will eventually be sorry. Because police states do not stop with the original targets.

Stop with the nonsense, simon. I have repeatedly explained, many of my closest friends are users. Some of them have their priorities in order and some do not. Drug use and abuse are not the deciding factor in whom I call a friend. And stop with the nonsense distraction about alcohol. We've already been though that argument a hundred times, and the drugs have almost nothing in common. Alcohol doesn't make people delusional. You, are delusional. You are diagnosable. You spend your life in contention over a subject and each day, delegitimize each argument you make by the way you live--as a parasite. Who in their right mind could possibly take your arguments seriously unless you were to hide the facts? And you do on most occasions hide the facts and most often lie about them, just as do almost all drug users. For instance, it was just a few weeks ago you were claiming you no longer use drugs. We saw how long that lie lasted.

Go get a job, then you can tell us all how you think we should live.

[MSimon]

"Alcohol doesn't make people delusional."

Well it has made you delusional enough to make such a deluded statement.

http://www.illuminating.us/

[MSimon]

BTW I'm not telling anyone how to live. It is the police state you favor that you have given that function to. None the less me and my leftist and libertarian friends are beating it back.

Have a nice day.