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Jccarlton
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You can't do the Federal budget on Turbo Tax. Geithner admits that the Obama budget plan is unsustainable and he doesn't have a clue. This is the guy we had to have to fix the economy. Well that didn't work out so well.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdcQGJF_jmY

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Post by hanelyp »

Maybe they need something like the unix utility bc - An arbitrary precision calculator language.

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Post by UncleMatt »

Were these kinds of comments being posted prior to Obama? Then why would we listen to them from you now?

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Post by JLawson »

UncleMatt wrote:Were these kinds of comments being posted prior to Obama? Then why would we listen to them from you now?
$4.5 tril in deficit spending in 3 years, 9+% unemployment, $3+ gas prices which could be alleviated by actually drilling for oil here in the US instead of shipping the money overseas... I think those are pretty decent reasons.

"You weren't commenting when the house WASN'T on fire - why should we listen to you NOW on how to put it out?"
When opinion and reality conflict - guess which one is going to win in the long run.

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Post by Skipjack »

I think those are pretty decent reasons.
All of them caused by the previous administration.

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Post by Diogenes »

UncleMatt wrote:Were these kinds of comments being posted prior to Obama? Then why would we listen to them from you now?

Not many people had the internet when Jimmy Carter was President. Plenty of stuff was said about Bill Clinton, but even he wasn't as bad as this Wunderkind we have now.

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Post by Diogenes »

Skipjack wrote:
I think those are pretty decent reasons.
All of them caused by the previous administration.
A comment like that shows you're not even TRYING to be fair or honest.

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Post by Skipjack »

The actions taken by the previous administration of course took a while to come into effect. It seems illogical that the Obama administratiion could have caused the crisis the very first day they came into office, right?
So get real, man!

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Skipjack wrote:The actions taken by the previous administration of course took a while to come into effect.

Yeah, they did nothing significant for 8 years, then all off a sudden BOOM! They occur just as Obama Takes office. Likewise the Stockmarket. 8 Years and it creeps steadily upward, and as soon as Barack wins the election, it plummets down to 6500 in just a couple of months. Boy, those Bush Policies sure are sneaky!
Skipjack wrote: It seems illogical that the Obama administratiion could have caused the crisis the very first day they came into office, right?
He actually started before that. The stock market started tanking as soon as it was perceived he might win, and it kept a steady decline for months thereafter. As for the Chart, the chart is delineated by year, so It doesn't distinguish between when he started and when the deficits occurred. If I remember, the deficits occurred when he submitted his budget, which was quite a bit later in the year. If you want a more accurate assessment of when they started, you need a month by month chart.

Either way, Barack IS the cause.

Skipjack wrote: So get real, man!
You are telling ME to get real? I'm a person that pays extremely close attention to what is going on in Washington, and I remember what happened, when it happened and who did it and why.

You obviously don't.


Barack voted for the TARP program as a Senator prior to taking office as President, but I don't hold him solely accountable for that fiasco. John McCain and George Bush bear as much responsibility for passing that turd as Barack does, however I will say his support of Lending policies by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (Major contributors to his campaign, btw.) is substantially responsible for creating the mess in the first place.

That being said, Barack did indeed CAUSE the bulk of the deficit after assuming office because he submitted his excessive spending spree budget, and then on top of that, he asked for a trillion dollar STIMULUS PACKAGE that only stimulated his cronies and political supporters.


But you know what? I'm wasting my time and yours attempting to explain any of this to you. You are a supporter of the Unicorn rider because you like his political positions better than those of his opponents. (i.e. grownups.)

My original point stands. You don't even TRY to be fair. You have your preferred narrative, and the facts can go hang. Fortunately, a lot of people, (Even Liberals) are waking up to the fact that the man is a moron and is incapable of doing anything right. Even Gene Simmons has admitted as much.

Even though KISS star Gene Simmons voted for President Barack Obama in 2008, he's not as big of a fan anymore. The rocker announced that he "couldn't find somebody, in retrospect, more unqualified."

"Two years in public office, never ran his own company, so after the fact, I was questioning the qualification," said Simmons during an appearance on CNN.

Simmons knocked the health care bill, in addition to "the Chapter 11s and Chapter 7s. You should be able to fail. "

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Post by Jccarlton »

Skipjack wrote:
I think those are pretty decent reasons.
All of them caused by the previous administration.
Why don't you list the things that the previous administration did that caused this mess. Not counting the war, which has been actually much cheaper than it could have been. Though that looks like its going to heat up again, vary soon if current events are any guide.

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Post by Jccarlton »

Yet more cluelessness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQwic-J ... ure=relmfu

Does anybody other than perhaps a five year old child not understand how these guys are screwing up?

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Post by hanelyp »

Dubya left a fair deal to be desired fiscally. But with all the LIES told by leftists trying to destroy him, some of us were distracted from his real failings. There is also the fact that in all his real failings, his opposition would have done the same or worse.

It got worse when the democrats retook congress.

It got a lot worse when the current lying socialist took the whitehouse.

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Post by Skipjack »

He actually started before that. The stock market started tanking as soon as it was perceived he might win, and it kept a steady decline for months thereafter. As for the Chart, the chart is delineated by year, so It doesn't distinguish between when he started and when the deficits occurred. If I remember, the deficits occurred when he submitted his budget, which was quite a bit later in the year. If you want a more accurate assessment of when they started, you need a month by month chart.
That is simply ridiculous.
The financial crisis was already looming with bailout plans alreaedy signed off on or in the line during te previous administration. Please check your facts! This is just amazing how some people are trying to spin facts for their own agenda!

The whole banking scandal, the lack of oversight at wallstreet, the credit debacle. That was all stuff that had been in motion looooooong before Obama was elected, even before the primaries.
What you are saying is totally ludicrous!
The war did of course affect the economy, like it or not. Even if it was cheaper than anticipated, it still cost hundreds of billions of USD.

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Post by UncleMatt »

JLawson wrote:
UncleMatt wrote:Were these kinds of comments being posted prior to Obama? Then why would we listen to them from you now?
$4.5 tril in deficit spending in 3 years, 9+% unemployment, $3+ gas prices which could be alleviated by actually drilling for oil here in the US instead of shipping the money overseas... I think those are pretty decent reasons.

"You weren't commenting when the house WASN'T on fire - why should we listen to you NOW on how to put it out?"
That sure is a lot of propaganda posted just to say "no"...

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Post by UncleMatt »

Skipjack wrote:The actions taken by the previous administration of course took a while to come into effect. It seems illogical that the Obama administratiion could have caused the crisis the very first day they came into office, right?
So get real, man!
Exactly! And if we apply the "logic" employed by some here, we should all be screaming at the newly elected republicants in the house for NOT CREATING JOBS! You know, like they focused on during their campaigns recently?

They didn't wait even a second to start blaming Obama, so why should we give THEM any more slack than they give OTHERS?

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