bureau of land managment

[choff]

A little family background on the senator.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_remus_reid.htm

[paperburn1]

From what I understand the land was never private property, but state property before the feds took it. Bundy just had grazing rights, not ownership. I admit that information has been pretty confusing on this, so I might have misunderstood.

Correct, public grazing land, just like oyster beds in the east and Tobacco grants in the Carolinas, they are normally rented by family for years or generations. These leases are normally not given up unless all members of the family's involved agree and they can be willed or hereditary passed from generation to generation. The Bundy Ranch is only 150 acres. but they steward 500 more. I guess when you take care of something for over a hundred years you get attached to it.

[Skipjack]

From what I understand the land was never private property, but state property before the feds took it. Bundy just had grazing rights, not ownership. I admit that information has been pretty confusing on this, so I might have misunderstood.

Correct, public grazing land, just like oyster beds in the east and Tobacco grants in the Carolinas, they are normally rented by family for years or generations. These leases are normally not given up unless all members of the family's involved agree and they can be willed or hereditary passed from generation to generation. The Bundy Ranch is only 150 acres. but they steward 500 more. I guess when you take care of something for over a hundred years you get attached to it.

OK, so the problem is that Bundy feels entitled to being allowed to let his cattle graze on the land, but the feds don't think he is. IMHO that puts it fairly into the grey zone. I can sympathize with Bundy, but I see where the feds have a problem. The turtle thing is BS, IMHO.

[choff]

Apparently the Empire has struck back! 16 people arrested at the protest camp, which was thoroughly infiltrated and under surveillance by drones. People handcuffed, then insulted and pepper sprayed before hauled away without bail.

When I think back there was a TV show a while ago about how the first mob run casino operations butted up against the local sheriffs, makes me wonder if all this isn't some sort of staged distraction. As my Momma used to say, believe half of what you see and nothing that you hear. In this era of computer graphics animation I can rule out the other half I see.

[paperburn1]

http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-you ... being-told
title said it all , read down to the ENN involvment
Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle"
They specifically referred to the solar project as a justification to seize Cliven Bundy's cattle.