The Culture War Is Over

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One Man's Freedom Is Another Man's Chain

[mvanwink5]

MSimon,
I'll buy that.

Prohibition is costly but in reality it is a subset of the medical care and cost catastrophe. And so the reason medical care is astronomical in cost, far greater than the cost of prohibition, is due to the Gubermant intrusion, yes, the Progressives are doing this to take care of us Ignorunnt farm animals. Progs have been around for quite some time... What a well meaning curse they are.

[MSimon]

One Man's Freedom Is Another Man's Chain

Well we are all chained to plants and animals. If you can grow your own it is not much of a chain. And if it has medical benefits as well? Well that $1 trillion a year in medical expenses is quite a chain in itself.

Anti-depressants alone are a ~$9.4bn a year chain. You could grow your own and smoke them - if you needed them. And as a side benefit slightly reduce your odds of getting lung cancer.

BTW the most commonly used anti-depressant in America? Tobacco. Expensive. And it increases your chances of getting cancer. Unlike that other stuff you could smoke. If it was legal.

[MSimon]

MSimon,
I'll buy that.

Prohibition is costly but in reality it is a subset of the medical care and cost catastrophe. And so the reason medical care is astronomical in cost, far greater than the cost of prohibition, is due to the Gubermant intrusion, yes, the Progressives are doing this to take care of us Ignorunnt farm animals. Progs have been around for quite some time... What a well meaning curse they are.

Yes. If only they would stop helping us we would be much better off.

[paperburn1]

One Man's Freedom Is Another Man's Chain

Well we are all chained to plants and animals. If you can grow your own it is not much of a chain. And if it has medical benefits as well? Well that $1 trillion a year in medical expenses is quite a chain in itself.

Anti-depressants alone are a ~$9.4bn a year chain. You could grow your own and smoke them - if you needed them. And as a side benefit slightly reduce your odds of getting lung cancer.

BTW the most commonly used anti-depressant in America? Tobacco. Expensive. And it increases your chances of getting cancer. Unlike that other stuff you could smoke. If it was legal.

Missed by a mile

[MSimon]

One Man's Freedom Is Another Man's Chain

Well we are all chained to plants and animals. If you can grow your own it is not much of a chain. And if it has medical benefits as well? Well that $1 trillion a year in medical expenses is quite a chain in itself.

Anti-depressants alone are a ~$9.4bn a year chain. You could grow your own and smoke them - if you needed them. And as a side benefit slightly reduce your odds of getting lung cancer.

BTW the most commonly used anti-depressant in America? Tobacco. Expensive. And it increases your chances of getting cancer. Unlike that other stuff you could smoke. If it was legal.

Missed by a mile

Care to be more specific? How exactly does my freedom chain you? Or your freedom chain me.

[TDPerk]

Coffee dude! darn*.

Caffeine.


*I didn't type "darn".

[choff]

He stole more chain than he could carry.

[paperburn1]

If you can not understand how one mans freedom , can be the chains of another I have not the will power or time to explain it to you.

[MSimon]

If you can not understand how one mans freedom , can be the chains of another I have not the will power or time to explain it to you.

Ah. A weak mind. I suspected as much.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." -- Thomas Jefferson

Was what I had in mind. If that chains you. Well - you deserve them.

[paperburn1]

“Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”


― Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

[GIThruster]

MSimon, Ben Carson supports medical MJ legalization, so really it is becoming a fringe Repub position to oppose medical MJ.

I'm sorry but you've been misinformed.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/dr-be ... z3JocXkXHP

Obviously Carson holds the conservative and still majority position that cannabis is nothing but bad and he does not sympathize at all with efforts toward legalization.

Where did you get your info?

[mvanwink5]

This is where I got my information:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ben_Carson.htm
Look, GT, nearly all medicines have issues and usually it is a matter of trade offs as to what is selected. Get over it.

[Diogenes]

This is where I got my information:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ben_Carson.htm
Look, GT, nearly all medicines have issues and usually it is a matter of trade offs as to what is selected. Get over it.

You seem to be an evidence based fellow. How about looking at this?



Vancouver’s ‘gulag’: Canada’s poorest neighbourhood refuses to get better despite $1M a day in social spending

VANCOUVER – In a campaign that has otherwise been pretty scant on details, mayoral challenger Kirk LaPointe rolled out at least one policy point that got some attention: If elected, the former journalist would initiate a crackdown on the drug dealers of the Downtown Eastside.

“The people that bother me the most are the predators down here, the people that are taking the few dollars that the residents have from them,” he said in an interview with Gastown Gazette, a vocal advocate against what it has called the neighbourhood’s “revolving door poverty policies.” “Those are the people that I think have to be rerouted out of the system.”

Once there, “quite literally, there are going to be people on your doorstep dealing drugs or encouraging drug use … and beyond that, they’re going to try and exploit you in other ways, like turning you out for prostitution,” says Mr. Crey, whose sister Dawn lived in the neighbourhood for 20 years before she was murdered by serial killer Robert Pickton.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/14 ... -spending/






Wow! A million dollars a day? I guess that would be 365 million per year. And for one neighborhood? I haven't done the math, but i'm betting if you corrected for GDP and population etc it's gonna come out a lot more expensive than that 28 billion MSimon is always griping about.


"Penny wise and Dollar foolish" he seems to be.

[mvanwink5]

D,
I don't understand. How is what you posted an argument against medical MJ?

'Dealers' occur only because of the prohibition laws. The massive number of poor are a result of socialism and associated corruption. State charity gives 10 cents on the dollar (at best) into the hands of the poor. All these dismal pictures I have seen are the result of the poor, but you full well know that. Separate issues if you want to see cause and effect.