A responce to CoolbruceLong

[Jccarlton]

I don't think too many groups are interviewing the entire Tea party to ask. I put more merit on the elected officals of the "Party," but it's also up to them to set good examples and to stop such rhetoric. I can't remember too many speeches by Tea Party officials where they asked that party-goers remove said placards. My concerns are not with the debt movement on this issue, but on the indifference of so many at the actions of a few.

How about commenting on the garbage that we have been taking from the left for decades before trying to find imaginary racism in the tea party:
http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

I don't see a political party nor elected official at these rallies in the pictures. How you equate the Tea Party to an Anti-War rally, is beyond me.

Actually I don't equate them. One is a group of organizations backed by the establishment ruling class, determined to suck the country dry for their ill gotten benefits and priviledges and impose their kind of totaltarianism upon us, the whole thing being centrally planned by people working for big unions and the likes of george Soros. the other is a bunch of people representing a cross section of the nation gathering together enmasse for thefirst time to make a statement about the establishment ruling class's ever increasing greed and the consequences of an avericious government on the country. No equality there at all.

[Axil]

I find it amazing that lefties always have to try to find the bogeyman leaders even when they are fantasies.

One is a group of organizations backed by the establishment ruling class, determined to suck the country dry for their ill gotten benefits and priviledges and impose their kind of totaltarianism upon us, the whole thing being centrally planned by people working for big unions and the likes of george Soros.

The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom used to accuse a person of being guilty of the very thing they are pointing out. This may or may not be hypocritical or a contradiction...but “Remember ‘We Report, You Decide,’ back when Fox News began?”

[hanelyp]

At this point in time we need a centrist method. Cutting to certain programs while increasing revenue.

So you would raise taxes further on the people in this country who actually do the work, so those who don't can keep getting their government benefits?

There will be no recovery until the punishment of the producers lightens and the benefits to the freeloaders are cut.

[Jccarlton]

I find it amazing that lefties always have to try to find the bogeyman leaders even when they are fantasies.

One is a group of organizations backed by the establishment ruling class, determined to suck the country dry for their ill gotten benefits and priviledges and impose their kind of totaltarianism upon us, the whole thing being centrally planned by people working for big unions and the likes of george Soros.

The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom used to accuse a person of being guilty of the very thing they are pointing out. This may or may not be hypocritical or a contradiction...but “Remember ‘We Report, You Decide,’ back when Fox News began?”

One thing about being an engineer is that you are expected to deal with facts, not assertions. After all if you make a mistake people can die. That means that you constantly have to fact check yourself: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/view ... asp?id=589
about many things:
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/1 ... ss-and-the
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/08 ... nment.html
http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?doct ... oc_id=2062
and on and on.
Frankly, any realistic study of the patterns of history should warn one about following the patterns that our current "ruling elites" are following. But they stopped teaching the classics as core requirments at Harvard and Yale a long time ago.

[ScottL]

At this point in time we need a centrist method. Cutting to certain programs while increasing revenue.

So you would raise taxes further on the people in this country who actually do the work, so those who don't can keep getting their government benefits?

There will be no recovery until the punishment of the producers lightens and the benefits to the freeloaders are cut.

I personally would retain the current Bush tax cuts for individuals and small business. I would, however; hike taxes on corporations that outsource. You want to be U.S. based and sell to U.S. consumers, you better hire U.S. people. This is a temporary solution though.

We should be looking into contracts within our continent at this point. Borders and fences aren't the answer to dissuading immigrants, especially when there are so many menial jobs they do that U.S. citizens wouldn't consider (IE: farm labor not tied to the federal minimum wage). The best way to stop "illegal" immigration is to give them options in their country.

[ScottL]

At this point in time we need a centrist method. Cutting to certain programs while increasing revenue.

So you would raise taxes further on the people in this country who actually do the work, so those who don't can keep getting their government benefits?

There will be no recovery until the punishment of the producers lightens and the benefits to the freeloaders are cut.

Whoa Whoa Whoa, name calling? Not once has any other poster within these topics degenerated to name calling....not once!

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[TDPerk]

"I would, however; hike taxes on corporations that outsource."

Sure, protectionism like Smoot-Hawley was such a great idea the first time.

[Axil]

"I would, however; hike taxes on corporations that outsource."

Sure, protectionism like Smoot-Hawley was such a great idea the first time.

You must therefore regard American jobs as a commodity like wheat that can be freely exported without restrictions.

Are you in the jobs export business?

[choff]

Here's a economic theory that was devised by an engineer and rejected by economists, though Keynes himself admitted it was one of the only ideas out there that attempted to deal with the problem of long term debt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit

[MSimon]

Here's a economic theory that was devised by an engineer and rejected by economists, though Keynes himself admitted it was one of the only ideas out there that attempted to deal with the problem of long term debt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit

Production for Use:

http://www.worldsocialism.org/canada/pr ... 36n268.htm

And if you want to see a funny movie about it:

http://www.archive.org/details/his_girl_friday