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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:18 am
by ladajo
I saw a report where levels taken near the facility front gate got up to 11,000.
The fire was in Unit 4, and it apparently had spent fuel in the storage pool in the upper level.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:22 am
by ladajo
Still no overheads showing Unit 2 post explosion.
But DigitalGlobe put this togther...
http://www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/D ... ch2011.pdf
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:23 am
by Skipjack
11,000 MICROsieverts!
Not MILLIsieverts.
1000 microsieverts = 1 Millisievert.
11,000 Microsieverts is a bigger CT- scan.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:24 am
by ladajo
Fair enough, I should have put units.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:19 pm
by ladajo
The real issue here for expsoure is ingested particulate, not ambient.
Ingestion is what is going to drive most body damage and health issues in an accident like this.
Some of the plant workers might have sustained ambient high doses but we will not know until they release dosimetry data.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:25 pm
by Skipjack
Well, I do hope that they are wearing protective clothing and masks whenever they leave the control bunker. Even wtih radiation levels being non hazardous right now, this would be the dilligent thing to do.
Also, from what I understand the reference values for exposure in sievert are assuming the worst (full body contamination).
So you would have to get a full body contamination of 2 sievert for a 5% chance of dieing of radiation poisoning.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:49 pm
by KitemanSA
Contamination of US Navy personnel was eliminated with soap and water.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:01 pm
by Skipjack
Contamination of US Navy personnel was eliminated with soap and water.
The equivalent of how many bananas was their contamination?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose
Cudos to NBF for that one. I was not aware of it until yesterday.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:41 pm
by ladajo
Yes, I have Decon'd that way myself, but once with an added bonus of some hair being shaved as well.
They called me Patch...
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:23 pm
by CaptainBeowulf
Keep in mind that there are aftershocks going on in Japan, some of which could be considered full-blown earthquakes in their own right. This could also be complicating containment efforts - causing cracks to expand, knocking damaged stuff over, etc.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:29 pm
by Skipjack
The fire in Unit 4 has been extinguished.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:14 am
by krenshala
All the footage I've seen shows the japanese in protective gear (though they all appeared to be decon stations for civvies getting out of the area). I'm pretty sure they will be wearing what they need to closer to the plant.
As far as how things end, I'm pretty sure the Japanese will just build new plants to replace those damaged in the earthquake. They need the power, and they know first hand what radiation damage/poisoning does to people on a large scale, and yet still have dozens of fission plants powering their country.
This is bad, but not going to stop them from running the fission plants they need as a country.
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:19 am
by Maui
Now #3's spent fuel pool is burning. I'm sure I can't comprehend the complexities involved, but I just fail to understand how after all this time and I would guess limitless access to assistance and expertise, they can't have at least been in control of the spent fuel pools. What don't they have that they need?
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:25 am
by Torulf2
I heard people in USA buy iodine tablets. It is true?
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:32 am
by Maui
We apparently also buy large numbers of Snuggies, so...