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Fusion propulsion papers - ZaP and STX

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:44 pm
by DeltaV

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:27 pm
by pfrit
Very cool stuff. I wonder what the power demands and ISP are like.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:17 pm
by kurt9
The first one is John Slough's FRC concept. The Isp's cited range from 10exp3 to 10exp6. I noticed it talks about aneutronic fuel cycle (Boron-Hydrogen). I thought that was not possible with this FRC concept.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:20 am
by DeltaV
The ZaP paper refers to a 50 m long, p-B11 z-pinch device producing 680,000 N or 152,320 lb of thrust (about 30% of the thrust of one SSME near full throttle). Both of the above concepts are intended for interplanetary (orbit-to-orbit) operation, given the high Isp and exhaust velocity, but that's still a non-trivial amount of thrust compared to most deep space concepts. I wonder if the basic reactor designs could be adapted for the earth-to-LEO mission, to heat atmosphere as reaction mass (see air entrainment for GTX below).

http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2002/ ... 211495.pdf

Or, bias the design towards electrical power generation at lower altitudes, for powering electric lift fans/thrusters until the air thins out. With fusion power, a slower ascent might be practical... no worry about running out of fuel.

Focus Fusion Single Stage to Orbit

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:04 am
by Brian H
Here's an image:

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suggested by research like this:
http://www.stormingmedia.us/37/3796/A379644.html
Abstract: The objective of this study was to perform a parametric evaluation of the performance and interface characteristics of a dense plasma focus (DPF) fusion system in support of a USAF advanced military aerospace vehicle concept study. This vehicle is an aerospace plane that combines clean "aneutronic" dense plasma focus (DPF) fusion power and propulsion technology, with advanced "waverider"-like airframe configurations utilizing air-breathing MHD propulsion and power technology within a reusable single-stage-to-orbit vehicle. The applied approach was to evaluate the fusion system details (geometry, power, T/W, system mass, etc.) of a baseline p-11B DPF propulsion device with Q = 3.0 and thruster efficiency, eta prop = 90% for a range of thrust, Isp and capacitor specific energy values. The baseline details were then kept constant and the values of Q and eta prop were varied to evaluate excess power generation for communication systems, pulsed-train plasmoid weapons, ultrahigh-power lasers, shielding/cloaking devices and gravity or time-distorting devices. Thrust values were varied between 100 kN and 1,000 kN with Isp of 1,500 s and 2,000 s, while capacitor specific energy was varied from 1 - 15 kJ/kg. Q was varied from 3.0 to 6.0, resulting in gigawatts of excess power. Thruster efficiency was varied from 0.9 to 1.0, resulting in hundreds of megawatts of excess power. Resulting system masses were on the order of 10's to 100's of metric tons with thrust-to-weight ratios ranging from 2.1 to 44.1, depending on capacitor specific energy. Such a high thrust/high Isp system with a high power generation capability would allow military versatility in sub-orbital space, as early as 2025, and beyond as early as 2050. This paper presents only the views and recommendations of the authors themselves and are not necessarily those of the Air Force.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:02 pm
by kurt9
I know we've had this discussion else where. However, focus fusion is much more speculative than IEC polywell or John Slough's FRC concepts.

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:52 pm
by Brian H
kurt9 wrote:I know we've had this discussion else where. However, focus fusion is much more speculative than IEC polywell or John Slough's FRC concepts.
Pushing forward. Here are the new news feeds and images of the research rig just completed:
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/a ... yesterday/

http://focusfusion.org/index.php/gallery/image_med/58/ & ff & prev.

Re: Focus Fusion Single Stage to Orbit

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:41 pm
by 93143
...excess power generation for communication systems, pulsed-train plasmoid weapons, ultrahigh-power lasers, shielding/cloaking devices and gravity or time-distorting devices.
Does the Air Force know something we don't?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:50 pm
by kurt9
Brian H wrote:
kurt9 wrote:I know we've had this discussion else where. However, focus fusion is much more speculative than IEC polywell or John Slough's FRC concepts.
Pushing forward. Here are the new news feeds and images of the research rig just completed:
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/a ... yesterday/

http://focusfusion.org/index.php/gallery/image_med/58/ & ff & prev.
Sorry for my skepticism. I guess I will not believe it until they make it.

At least they are "bending metal" (doing experiments) and I certainly hope they are successful.