ScottL wrote:Diogenes wrote:ScottL wrote:He never will, but I blame that on life experience. My guess would be that he grew up in a conservative white mid-west town and his exposure to anything other than the views there are limited to what Fox News tells him. It's ok to be conservative as long as it is a well informed decision based on more than a myopic view.
Judging by the posturing in your comment, whatever it is that *I* don't get, you presumably do. Fine, then why don't you explain to those who may be interested, what it is that *I* do not "get" in the context of the left's efforts to legitimize what is currently considered child molestation?
If you have a reasonable answer for this, then i'm all ears.
Math says,
P -> Q (P implies Q)
P
~Q (there for Q)
P = legitimizes molestation, Q = belonging to Left movement:
Q does not necessarily imply P, Correlation does not imply causation, your child molestation argument is a logical fallacy, a rather grotesque generalization on your part.
Actually, you are being too specific. The left embraces virtually everything which is traditionally considered evil. Child Molestation is just a subset of the overall genre. They go farther with murder, disease, famine, theft, and all sorts of other aspects of "Evil." The basic rule of thumb is "if it's considered "Normal and Traditional" it has to go. "
ScottL wrote:
If your argument were true, then the right would have to be gay racist homophobes who sleep with their sisters....which I find patently absurd.
You refer to logical fallacies, and immediately invoke a non sequitur? How does my assertion that the Left likes to continuously stretch the boundaries of "normal" imply that the right "
would have to be gay racist homophobes who sleep with their sisters." It implies the exact opposite. Trying to follow your tortured logic reminds me of this.
ScottL wrote:
As for what you don't get, it's society in general. Either you lack real world experience outside of white suburbia/white mid-west, or you lack empathy for your fellow man which ithen you'd be classified a sociopath. I assume its the lack of experience, but I could be wrong.
Sociopath? Yes. Trying to warn people about where their road leads is exactly what a sociopath would do. You speak of "experience." That is amusing because "experience" is the lessons learned from the past, which is
EXACTLY the point I am trying to convey.
Mankind has Millenniums of experience, and we have been down this road before. It works out the same each time;
That the left refuses to be bounded by past lessons is the core of the problem in it's simplest expression.
ScottL wrote:
As a side note, I'm not "leftist" and I'm not Democrat, however; I vote along those lines because they are the closest to my views. Unfortunately they fail me constantly, just not as much as the Republican/conservative view.
Well, if I thought the conservative view included people who "would have to be gay racist homophobes who sleep with their sisters", then I wouldn't have anything to do with them either. Fortunately for everyone, you are merely misinformed and can learn better.
Whether or not you chose to do so is up to you. I will point out that the "left" has killed more people than all other movement in Human History, and i'm not even counting AIDS, Abortion, and Drugs. I am only counting Leftest governments who have gotten into power. Let me acquaint you with this Pamphlet; "Prairie Fire" which was Written by Barack Obama's good friend, William Ayers.
And here is one of the Weather Underground Members recounting a conversation with William Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.
“Well, what is going to happen to those people that we can’t re-educate, that are die-hard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated and when I pursued this further, they estimated that they’d have to eliminate 25 million people in these re-education centers. And when I say eliminate, I mean kill 25 million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of whom have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well-known educational centers and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people and they were dead serious.
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2008/10 ... pitalists/
That you think the "lite" version of these people is an improvement over the conservatives can only be explained by your lack of familiarity with either group. I would urge you to learn about both sides, and then I think "A Miracle will occur" . I think you will grow up.