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Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:04 pm
by Jccarlton
What happens when ideological purity overrides public safety and common sense?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-1 ... -rule.html
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:34 pm
by scalziand
Reminds me of the April Fools article Mr. Watts posted about the low-flow hydrants.
Linear-no-threshold raises its head again.
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:06 pm
by hanelyp
Exponential costs for diminishing gains.
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:55 am
by choff
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:10 am
by Diogenes
I think there was probably some racism involved in this particular incident.
Large groups of young black males have come to engender fear even when they are doing nothing wrong.
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:38 am
by MSimon
Diogenes wrote:
I think there was probably some racism involved in this particular incident.
Large groups of young black males have come to engender fear even when they are doing nothing wrong.
Well look at the videos of who is playing the knock out game. I blame lack of fathers. And the Right put black fathers in jail at extraordinary levels. The Democrats started that with Drug Prohibition. Republicans are now doing their best to maintain it.
An ex-DEA Agent speaks to that. Starting at about 2 minutes in.
http://youtu.be/HmgeCeGk--I
And why is the Drug War Prosecuted mainly against blacks? Because white people can fight back. That raises costs. And we already can't afford it.
I have a black friend living with me. We discuss the situation frequently. There are now black areas that are no go even for him.
And I do understand D why you are against ending Prohibition. Your paycheck depends on its continuation.
"
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" - Upton Sinclair
The Chinese are more succinct. "Honor dies where interest lies."
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:16 am
by TDPerk
"And the Right put black fathers in jail at extraordinary levels."
Don't forget the differential sentencing for crack vs powder was done at the behest of urban center Democrats, and that violence done to distribute an illegal drug should be a crime.
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:00 pm
by MSimon
TDPerk wrote:"And the Right put black fathers in jail at extraordinary levels."
Don't forget the differential sentencing for crack vs powder was done at the behest of urban center Democrats, and that violence done to distribute an illegal drug should be a crime.
True, but that is only one aspect. The vast majority of arrests are for pot. And we are coming to our senses on that one.
And now the sentencing disparity is only 10 to 1 vs a previous 100 to 1.
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:01 pm
by choff
Here's another story of young people punished for nothing.
http://www.wric.com/story/24115770/oreg ... kay-to-beg
"The guard told her she can beg if she wanted but she can't sell the mistletoe," Root's father, Ashton told, ABCNews.com. He also said that Root "does not want to encourage begging and wants people to earn their living… She is so keen on high work ethic."
Re: Ideaology Over Common Sense
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:58 pm
by williatw
MSimon wrote:And I do understand D why you are against ending Prohibition. Your paycheck depends on its continuation.
Okay I will bite....how is "D"'s paycheck dependent on continuing drug Prohibition?