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Pretty graphics. I'd be proud of it

OK, that's just stunning and I'm now sad and jealous that I don't think I have the means to make one like it.

Tom Ligon wrote:OK, that's just stunning and I'm now sad and jealous that I don't think I have the means to make one like it.

I wonder if it was a team that did it. That's a lot of work even for an expert/veteren

Heroic mindset of the future we aspire to. Go Dark Horse Fusion!

GIThruster wrote: http://vimeo.com/108650530

Thanks for the link GIT I have sent it on to some of my like minded chums. Interesting thing about the narrator the late Carl Sagan...in his younger days he was decidedly if I recall lukewarm at best on manned space; thought unmanned probes could do the job better, cheaper, etc. But in his later "pale blue dot" years he came to understand that maybe the true purpose of manned space flight whether stated or not wasn't merely exploration (or political stunts) for its on sake. That its true purpose was long term species survival (as he alludes to in his voice over); our instinct driven curiosity about the world around us drives us to learn, explore, discover; which in turn gains us resources, knowledge which leads to our long term species survival.

"I love to sail forbidden seas."

The video is a paean to that. And yet should some one actually do that in some on planet sea, the initial poster instead of learning what news Ishmael has brought back - reviles him.

Most men are afraid of the forbidden seas. I like meeting dragons. And spitting in their faces. Not a hobby for everyone to be sure. But there are things to be learned that can be learned no other way than being open to the forbidden.

It is why Wm. Burroughs is one of my favorite authors.

Man is an artifact designed for space travel. He is not designed to remain in his present biologic state any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole. - William S. Burroughs

Nothing is true, everything is permitted. - William S. Burroughs

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has. - William S. Burroughs

I might add that one of the early mottos on US money was "Mind Your Business"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugio_Cent

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The socialist disease depends on the assumption that your business is my business and that through government man is perfectible. It is a church with fasces (more properly referred to as guns in the modern day). In America the only difference between our two parties is where the force ought to be applied. The application of force is never questioned. It didn't used to be that way.

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington

The question to ask of every law - "who and how many are you willing to kill to enforce your desired policy?" And I might add "who from and how much are you willing to steal to put your policy in action?"

Because everything government does is at the point of a gun.

The problem all fans of government guns have in the long run? What happens when the government changes targets and turns its guns on you. We used to like very small government in America for that reason. We may yet again. Or not.

williatw wrote:

GIThruster wrote: http://vimeo.com/108650530

Thanks for the link GIT I have sent it on to some of my like minded chums. Interesting thing about the narrator the late Carl Sagan...in his younger days he was decidedly if I recall lukewarm at best on manned space; thought unmanned probes could do the job better, cheaper, etc. But in his later "pale blue dot" years he came to understand that maybe the true purpose of manned space flight whether stated or not wasn't merely exploration (or political stunts) for its on sake. That its true purpose was long term species survival (as he alludes to in his voice over); our instinct driven curiosity about the world around us drives us to learn, explore, discover; which in turn gains us resources, knowledge which leads to our long term species survival.

I didn't look at it very carefully, but the vid looks new and Sagan is gone for years now. I think the graphic was just pasted atop one of his earlier addresses. He didn't actually narrate that content.

They did design the animation to fit with Carl Sagan's words, however.

GIThruster wrote:

williatw wrote:

GIThruster wrote: http://vimeo.com/108650530

Thanks for the link GIT I have sent it on to some of my like minded chums. Interesting thing about the narrator the late Carl Sagan...in his younger days he was decidedly if I recall lukewarm at best on manned space; thought unmanned probes could do the job better, cheaper, etc. But in his later "pale blue dot" years he came to understand that maybe the true purpose of manned space flight whether stated or not wasn't merely exploration (or political stunts) for its on sake. That its true purpose was long term species survival (as he alludes to in his voice over); our instinct driven curiosity about the world around us drives us to learn, explore, discover; which in turn gains us resources, knowledge which leads to our long term species survival.

I didn't look at it very carefully, but the vid looks new and Sagan is gone for years now. I think the graphic was just pasted atop one of his earlier addresses. He didn't actually narrate that content.

Didn't mean to imply when I used the word "narrate" that I thought a live Sagan knowingly supplied the words for what is yes an obviously relatively new video...I think the words are from the late Sagan's pale blue dot book. My point was how his (Sagan's) views on man space flight evolved over the course of his life that he came around toward the end of realizing what it was really all about.