Does Anybody Argue That Drug Use Isn't Bad For You

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GIThruster
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Post by GIThruster »

Dio has many times documented the horrific results of the free access to Opium in China. If you weren't around for that you'd want to take some heed. The weight of the data is overwhelming. You need to be pretty clueless to deny this.

Narcotics are restricted the way they are because. . .well. . . they're narcotics!

If you're too clueless to understand what that means you should not be involved in any discussions of drug decriminalization, etc.
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Post by Stubby »

Mr Merwin is a writer sensationalizing a story to sell magazines of the New Thought movement.

He has absolutely no credentials to stand on.

Please find another, more credible source.
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Post by paperburn1 »

Such clusters are known in Brazil as cracolandias or "cracklands," and dozens have proliferated in big cities such as Rio and Sao Paulo in recent years. Brazil borders the world's top three cocaine-producing countries and has become a huge market for narcotics as its economy expands.

The boy had left home nine days earlier, the welfare department said. His father was dead, and his mother was also a drug user, it said. The boy's 14-year-old brother had found him on Wednesday and failed to convince him to come home.

"Crack is a very violent and cruel drug, and we have to keep working against it," Rodrigo Abel, Rio's undersecretary for social protection, told reporters.

In response to "cracklands" that sometimes see hundreds of people gather to smoke the drug in broad daylight, Rio in 2011 began staging large-scale sweeps to remove addicts from the street.

They are offered drug treatment, although many refuse and quickly go back to using.

Unlike adults, minors are sometimes held for treatment against their will - a practice that has stirred controversy. Rio Mayor Eduardo Paes said last year he would support forced treatment of adults as well.

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Post by Diogenes »

TDPerk wrote:
Diogenes wrote:No doubt Mr. SAMUEL MERWIN was lying, or had been tricked by American Government propaganda from the future.
Diogenes trots out his meaningless historical outlier again, which has been replicated nowhere in history, even if it was just what he claims.


It has been tried no where else in history because the nature of it's murderous carnage is obvious to anyone with even a little sense. It is a sole example for a very good reason. It was an unmitigated disaster, never before or since matched in human history.


TDPerk wrote: In the real world, where what he claims for China has most likely never happened there and certainly nowhere else, we know what happens when Americans have unlimited access to drugs provided by the free market--not darn much; our own history proves Prohibition is all cost and no benefit.

And here is the childish notion that Prohibition of Alcohol is exactly the same as Prohibition of hellishly dangerous substances. You might as well compare squirt guns to rifles.
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Post by Diogenes »

Stubby wrote:Mr Merwin is a writer sensationalizing a story to sell magazines of the New Thought movement.

He has absolutely no credentials to stand on.

Please find another, more credible source.

You mean he is a member of the Media establishment, and therefore he is a lying sack of crap bent on an agenda?


I might actually buy that argument (because it is so obviously the case nowadays) except for all the other examples which demonstrate that what he said is true.
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Stubby
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Re: Does Anybody Argue That Drug Use Isn't Bad For You

Post by Stubby »

then why don't you cite those other examples? Merwin by himself is not credible.
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Re: Does Anybody Argue That Drug Use Isn't Bad For You

Post by ladajo »

This did not only happen in China.
The legal drug trade was global during the 1800s. What caused the China focus was business. As countries realized that the drugs were a cancer on society they were outlawed and trade moved elsewhere. China has the distinction of being the last great "free market". Mostly because in the final days those businesses selling there did not accept Chinese law and government as being "in charge". The result was a Chinese Revolution, that the businesses decided to call a "Rebellion". It was a long time in the making, and well deserved in my opinion.

The entire history of the drug trade is a good study in why legalization and free market is a really bad idea. This is what gets ignored by the pro-drug crowd. Ask them what they know of the the 1800's global drug trade. Mostly you will get blank looks.

It is the best commodity ever for a big business. Self growing demand. It markets itself.
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Re: Does Anybody Argue That Drug Use Isn't Bad For You

Post by choff »

I'm getting worried about legal drugs just as much as illegal ones these days. Was watching "The Manchurian Candidate" and every commercial break was replete with ads describing new and obscure medical problems and symptoms, ending with a parade of side effects from the cure they're selling. Pushing an entire country multiprescribed to all these pills can't be good.
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