Secret Police Jail In Chicago And Jon Burge Torture

[MSimon]

This has been all over the net. The site I'm linking favors lower spending and a balanced budget for Illinois. Hardly a hang out for lefties.

Lawmakers must ensure law-enforcement officers aren’t trampling the civil rights of Chicagoans.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/chicago- ... nsparency/
...accusing police officers of using their Homan Square facility on Chicago’s West Side as a “black site” for detaining and interrogating suspects without regard for their rights.

The report alleges Chicago police officers at the Homan Square facility have either carried out or allowed:

* Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases
* Beatings resulting in head wounds
* Shackling for prolonged periods
* Denying attorneys access to their clients
* Holding people as young as 15 years old without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours

CPD officials have denied the Guardian’s accusations, calling them “offensive” and “unequivocally false.” But the department also has well-known, long-standing transparency problems and a troubling history of police brutality, most notably in recent years with the Jon Burge torture revelations.

The fact that the city of Chicago has paid over a half a billion dollars to settle police-abuse claims over the last decade, and has even issued bonds to help cover these costs, shows serious changes are needed. We can’t afford to keep letting misconduct cost taxpayers hundreds of millions every year.

And of course according to my conservative friends the innocent have nothing to fear because police only torture the guilty to get them to confess.

[choff]

On other website that have covered this the comment chatter was about militias forming up to basically storm the Bastille, as it were. Hopefully lawmakers can sort this out before things get out of hand. I can understand the police being heavily armed when you have Mexican drug gangs trying to come in and tell them Silver or Lead, but a better way to deal with this go after the people at the very pinnacle of the drug trade, the politicians and bankers. Otherwise, there's no end to the drug culture that supports the drug war.

[MSimon]

On other website that have covered this the comment chatter was about militias forming up to basically storm the Bastille, as it were. Hopefully lawmakers can sort this out before things get out of hand. I can understand the police being heavily armed when you have Mexican drug gangs trying to come in and tell them Silver or Lead, but a better way to deal with this go after the people at the very pinnacle of the drug trade, the politicians and bankers. Otherwise, there's no end to the drug culture that supports the drug war.

The problem with Prohibitions is that they are impossible to win in the conventional sense. Suppose they start to be successful - prices go up. That means profits go up. That attracts more sellers. And you are back where you started.

We were smart enough to figure out in 1933 how to win one of these Prohibitions - end it. And it only took 13 years for Americans to figure that out.

We are now 77 years with the current Prohibition and are just starting to wise up.

Also note - in the 1932 election the last faction to continue support for Prohibition were the Republicans. Evidently stupid is is historic and genetic. The small government party which prides itself on learning the lessons of history in this case favors big government and historical amnesia. It is a hoot to watch though.

[choff]

I read somewhere that the Roosevelt family had monopoly control of the legal opium trade in America before Franklin was elected. Then he made it illegal.

[MSimon]

I read somewhere that the Roosevelt family had monopoly control of the legal opium trade in America before Franklin was elected. Then he made it illegal.

The same outrage was expressed in the pulpit and the press, in America and England, thereby encouraging Russell & Company and most other American businesses to pull out of the opium trade.

Warren Delano returned to America rich, and in 1851 settled in Newburgh, N.Y. There he eventually gave his daughter Sara in marriage to a well-born neighbor, James Roosevelt, the father of Franklin Roosevelt. The old China trader was close-mouthed about opium, as were his partners in Russell & Company. It is not clear how much F.D.R. knew about this source of his grandfather's wealth.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/28/opini ... story.html

William H. Russell (Skull &Bones; co-founder-1833) cousin Samuel Russell formally established Russell & Co. on January 1, 1824 for the purpose of acquiring opium and smuggling it to China. Russell & Co. merged with the number one US trader, the J. & T.H. Perkins "Boston Concern" in 1829. By the mid-1830s the opium trade had become "the largest commerce of its time in any single commodity, anywhere in the world." Russell & Co. and the Scotch firm Jardine-Matheson, then the world's largest opium dealer working together were known as the "Combination." George HW Bush (S&B 1948) was born in Milton, Massachusetts not far from the historic home of Robert Bennett Forbes, a Russell partner. Many great American, European and Chinese family fortunes were built on the "China"(opium) trade. Yes, they sold porcelain, tea, silks and other items at home in the US, but they "needed" the trade in opium for silver to pay for the desired goods and—opium smuggling returned "handsome" profits

http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/boddlesboys2.html

"If the trade is ever legalized, it will cease to be profitable from that time. The more difficulties that attend it, the better for you and us." -- Directors of Jardine-Matheson

[MSimon]

What is not well known is that WW2 was in part a war for the control of the drug trade:

An obscure tomb in a small graveyard at a Chiba Prefecture temple marks the final resting place of Japan's wartime "Opium King," although the site betrays nothing of this dark cloud, nor the relationship the deceased had with key historical figures.

The kanji on what looks like an ordinary tombstone at Soneiji Temple in Ichikawa reads "Satomi-ke no Reii" ( "Tomb of the Satomi Family" ). The inscription was written by the late Prime Minister Nobusuke Kishi, grandfather of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, to mark the grave of Hajime Satomi, who died in 1965.

Kishi was a senior government official in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo in Manchuria between 1936 and 1939 when he, as well as Gen. Hideki Tojo, reportedly established close relations with Satomi, who at the time headed Hung Chi Shan Tang, a Japanese opium firm that dominated the market in central China during the Japanese occupation.

Kishi had claimed he came to know of Satomi only after the war, saying he wrote the calligraphy on the opium dealer's tombstone at the request of an acquaintance.

"I know of a man named Satomi, who dealt with opium," Kishi said in a 1979 interview in the monthly magazine Chuokoron.

"But while I was in Manchukuo, Satomi was in Shanghai. Probably he engaged considerably in opium issues and gained money, too, but he didn't come to Manchukuo and I didn't know him," Kishi was quoted as saying.

However, insiders have alleged many politicians and military officers at the time, including Kishi and his ally Tojo, who went on to become prime minister, approached Satomi for political funds stemming from the opium trade.

Kishi came to know Tojo when the latter headed Japanese military police units in Manchukuo. When Tojo became prime minister shortly before the Pearl Harbor attack in December 1941, he appointed Kishi as his wartime industry minister.

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n1009/a12.html

If you look up " Tojo opium " there is quite a bit out there on the 'net. The Brits were annoyed (too mild?) because they used to control the trade. After the war the Americans took it over. See McCoy "The Politics of Heroin".

It is my opinion that American intel is slowly giving up prohibition in America as counterproductive. And that means ALL drugs. Not just pot. The tell is that Newt Gingrich supported the decrim of heroin in Calif. It passed. See my :

http://classicalvalues.com/2015/02/training-spies/

I sent this to a police officer who works against Prohibition and he thought it was a very good point.

[williatw]

This has been all over the net. The site I'm linking favors lower spending and a balanced budget for Illinois. Hardly a hang out for lefties.

Kind of beat you to it MSimon:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5887&start=15


Have to wonder how many police departments around the US in major cities have their analogue to it...sure Chicago is not the only one. You are right prohibition is inherently corrupting to the prohibitionists

[MSimon]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... MP=ema_565

Less than a week after a Guardian investigation uncovered detailed accounts from Chicago citizens who said they were abused and detained without access to legal counsel or basic rights, demonstrators from groups including the hacktivist collective Anonymous and the Black Lives Matter movement chanted “freedom first” and pushed for open access to the secretive police warehouse.

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The police are your friends. And they respect the Constitution. Totally. Except when it is inconvenient.